I’m not here to tell you that you have to like any ship or even change whatever set of beliefs you have that makes you think that a certain ship is horrible. If you hate something or think it’s disgusting, that’s fine, that’s your business.
What I do want to do is ask you to just leave the people that ship the things you don’t like alone. Completely.
Someone is going to end up dead. I’m not saying this to be dramatic. There have been so many suicidal posts, that are increasing in frequency, and one of these times it is going to happen.
Do you really want someone to die because you don’t like what fictional characters they ship?
Read that sentence again. Read it a few times, out loud, until you realize just how absolutely ridiculous it sounds.
No matter how much you hate a fictional pairing, people are still going to ship it. People will still write fanfiction and make fanart and post it on Tumblr and elsewhere.
No amount of complaining, tag spamming, hateful anons or call out posts will ever stop all of it.
What you will do, is you’ll harass someone past their breaking point and someone who can’t take the incessant bullying and the toxic call out culture you are participating in is going to end their own life.
Look at how many teens have killed themselves over bullying.
You are bullying people. You are going to push someone at the wrong time and no amount of apologies, of saying “but I’m a mentally ill minor” or anything else is going to give that person their life back. Or take away the guilt you’re going to have hanging on your shoulders or the rest of your life if you don’t re-evaluate how you are treating people.
And if you think anyone deserves to die over any of this, you are pretty much the worst of the worst and have zero moral high ground or authority to be preaching at anyone.
Stop making call out posts. Stay out of the ship tags. Block users that produce or post content you don’t like or that isn’t properly tagged. Use blacklisting functions. Do not search tags while you are on mobile. Understand that there are millions of us with ptsd or that are trauma survivors that have various triggers and it is impossible to completely avoid them 100% of the time and it is something that, while it feels unfair, is something we just have to deal with.
I get triggered, too. I know what it’s like, I’ve been living with it for a very, very long time. But, I understand I cannot eliminate my triggers completely from the world. I can do what is within my power to avoid them, but sometimes everything I do just won’t be enough. It’s something I’ve had to accept. And I’ve had to accept that even though certain things trigger me, it doesn’t give me a right to hurt anyone else, particularly people that are doing things that are well within their rights to do – no matter how disgusting or problematic I think it is.
I want you to seriously consider how you are treating other people and how much these attacks hurt them. They don’t ship to hurt you. They ship for whatever their reasons are – to enjoy something, to cope, etc. But, their shipping has nothing to do with YOU personally. You are taking something they are doing that isn’t about you, no matter how much you try to make it so, and using it as a weak excuse to harass people. It’s not okay.
When you make call out posts, when you send hate anons, you are attacking an individual. Not an idea or a concept, but a person. Someone with feelings, that might be dealing with a slew of issues you have no idea about.
Please stop targeting shippers before this gets to a point where no amount of apologies can ever fix it.
There is a difference between attacking an idea and attacking a person. Please try and understand that.
Please. Yes. It’s reasonable to avoid what you don’t like. Purposely spending time on it and writing about it seems somewhat counterproductive to me. And. It has a great potential up actually ending up poisoning the joy for a great lot of people.
Tag: anon hate
You’re getting anon hate again? Ugh. Here’s some anon love to hopefully counter balance that. You are an amazing person, from what I can tell by your tumblr, you geting hate does not make sense to me. *proceeds to roll you up in anon love*
*hugs and hugs* you are a beautiful kind soul, Nonnie. Thank you so so much. May the new year be wonderful to you: you thoroughly deserve every good thing.
Excuse me, I need to go smack my head against a wall REPEATEDLY because how stupid that anon hate was. I am incredulous. *screeching pterodactyl noises of frustration* SO SORRY DETS!!!
You and me both, lovely Nonnie. Merrr, well, I have now told them to leave me the HELL alone, in no uncertain terms. They can’t possibly misunderstand the words “GO AWAY”. Sigh. Let’s see if they can muster up enough consideration to respect my wishes (though that’s doubtful). Bleh.
*hugs* It’s okay and I am okay, whatever happens! I’m gonna listen to “Swear Jar” yet AGAIN (so appropriate!!!), and then put this rubbish firmly into the garbage bin, where it belongs 🙂
You know, I fail at life in SO many ways, but at least I can say with 100% honesty that I have never left anonymous hate
yes, dear, you’re very important and I’m paying lots and lots of attention to you.
LMAO what a thing to return to
I just got a rather awful anon ask from someone who says they have just gone through my blog and that I am ‘deluded and pathetic’ for a) shipping Gigolas, and b) liking the Iron Hills Dwarves, who are all racists and greedy.
As I have already said a hell of a lot about WHY I ship Gigolas (hahaha is 70 pages enough do you suppose) I am not even gonna go there. Ship-shaming is weak and stupid. As to the rest…well, rather than inflicting this negativity and nastiness upon all you nice people, I decided to simply block the troll, and then do something positive instead!
So, here it is –
SIX (ABRIDGED) REASONS WHY I LOVE THE IRON HILLS DWARVES
1. They are a settlement of refugees.
Right well, the Iron Hills have been mined by the Longbeards for centuries, but in actual fact the current settlement in the Iron Hills isn’t all that old. It was established in 2589 by the refugees of the Grey Mountains, who were fleeing a dragon (an ice-worm). They were led by Gror, Thror’s younger brother.
(incidentally, the Dwarves of the Grey Mountains were themselves refugees, having fled to that place after Moria fell. And some significant part of Moria’s population were also refugees from the Broadbeam and Firebeard cities! SO MANY DIFFERENT CULTURES ALL SMOOSHED TOGETHER, SO MANY TIMES THE DWARVES HAD TO FLEE)
So at the exact same time when Thror went to re-establish Erebor (2589), his little bro was setting up shop (with the majority of the refugees) in the much MUCH poorer Iron Hills.
After Smaug came to Erebor (2770), most of the survivors pour into the Iron Hills. Yes, they take the refugees in. We can only speculate as to why a small number of noble Dwarves wanted to move on to the Blue Mountains (pride, maybe?).
2. They keep going to the aid of others
Not even one generation passes before Thror is calling for them to uproot themselves and come to Khazad-dum (2799). They’re expected to throw their lives away after they’ve found some small measure of stability, all for a dangerous and orc- (and balrog, but nobody knew that at the time) infested place.
They turn the tide of the War of Orcs and Dwarves. No really, they do. They die by the thousands (HALF the Dwarves died in that war!), they lose their leader, Gror’s son Nain, who is slaughtered on the steps of Khazad-dum. His son, the APPALLINGLY young Dain Ironfoot (32 years old) sees it all happen with his own eyes.
The survivors limp back home once again. Maybe this time they’ll get to stay.
Then in 2941 Thorin calls for aid at Erebor via raven, and off they go again.
3. They are not wealthy.
Though the Hills are rich in Iron (and they stand at the natural junction for trade-routes between Rhun and the West), the Iron Hills never became as insanely, ridiculously, fabulously rich as their noble cousins. They’re miners first and foremost, and they seem to just stay out of drama and keep their heads down until some bugger calls them out to die (again).
4. They’re sensible.
In the books, Thorin never petitions the Iron Hills to help him retake Erebor before the Quest. The first they ever hear of it is Thorin’s raven, requesting them to come fight two armies of Elves and Men. Yaaaay.
It’s often not mentioned that the vast VAST majority of all Dwarves – including those in the Blue Mountains – also refuse to accompany Thorin. In fact, it’s strongly suggested that Thorin is making this journey a secret, to avoid alerting the same forces that thwarted his father (who disappeared doing the exact same thing, after all).
But leaving the movie-changes aside, it’s worth looking at this exchange from the LOTR appendices:
When at last the battle was won the Dwarves that were left gathered in Azanulbizar. They took the head of Azog and thrust into its mouth the purse of small money, and then they set it on a stake. But no feast nor song was there that night; for their dead were beyond the count of grief. Barely half of their number, it is said, could still stand or had hope of healing.
None the less in the morning Thrain stood before them. He had one eye blinded beyond cure, and he was halt with a leg-wound; but he said:
‘Good! We have the victory. Khazad-dum is ours!’
But they answered: ‘Durin’s Heir you may be, but even with one eye you should see clearer. We fought this war for vengeance, and vengeance we have taken. But it is not sweet. If this is victory, then our hands are too small to hold it.’
And those who were not of Durin’s Folk said also: ‘Khazad-dum was not our Fathers’ house. What is it to us, unless a hope of treasure? But now, if we must go without the rewards and the weregilds that are owed to us, the sooner we return to our own lands the better pleased we shall be.’
Then Thrain turned to Dain, and said: ‘But surely my own kin will not desert me?’ ‘No,’ said Dain. ‘You are the father of our Folk, and we have bled for you, and will again. But we will not enter Khazad-dum. You will not enter Khazad-dum. Only I have looked through the shadow of the Gate. Beyond the shadow it waits for you still: Durin’s Bane. The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durin’s Folk walk again in Moria.’
So, it’s worth recalling that in this moment, Dain
- has just lost his father, killed in front of his eyes
- Just slew Azog.
- saw something terrible through the doors of Khazad-dum
- Is speaking to his King. He just shut his KING DOWN.
- IS 32 YEARS OLD. THAT IS YOUNGER THAN I AM NOW. and he has more sense in his little toe than I do in my entire BODY.
5. They would be familiar with the people/s of Rhun
Check out the map. The Iron Hills are about as far East as you can get without being in Rhun already… in fact, they are closer to Rhun than they are to any point in Rhovanion. They’re the logical trade-route for anyone wishing to move between the Eastern nations and the West. I like to think that there is a huge and civil cultural exchange between the Iron Hills Dwarves and the Dwarves of the Orocarni, resulting in a melting-pot of customs and the flourishing of new ideas and music and art and technology.
I mean, the Dwarves of the Iron Hills would have already been a cultural blend of Longbeard, Firebeard and Broadbeam (fyi: Firebeards and Broadbeams both assimilated into Longbeard society in Khazad-dum, after their own cities were destroyed in the War of Wrath) … but only in that one place in all the world could you commonly find Dwarves of all seven clans living and sharing and trading and marrying harmoniously. I like that idea. I like it a lot.
this is also the reason why i cannot ever hc the Iron Hills Dwarves as racist.6. They RIDE. PIGS.
‘Nuff said.
So thank you, dear nasty haternon.. I am now even more determined to love Iron Hills Dwarves, to love their darling fuzzy faces in spite of your clumsy attempt to get me all riled up 🙂 I am doubly inspired to write about their awesomeness and loyalty and loss in the face of such spite. Perhaps I shall write some more music!
In conclusion, the Iron Hills for Me.
(also also – Gigolas is the ship that literally sails itself into the West, so bleh to you with a cherry on top.)
you know, the absolute best part about dealing with this haternon in this deliberately positive way is that it completely negates their purpose
they set out to make me angry and upset, singling out and targeting two aspects of fandom I care about very deeply
and instead I am getting messages going ‘HELL YEAH!’ and high-fiving me over the Iron Hills and Gigolas, and in general making me very happy
and so…

I’m sorry you got stupid anon hate in your inbox! To counter with something nice, I’m going to say that I absolutely love, love, love Sansûkh (surely you’ve heard that many times)! I think it’s the best story I’ve ever read, and I’m simply in awe at the amount of work you’ve put into it. Your descriptions of Dwarven culture with all its nuances and details are so amazing! And you’ve made me love Dain, where before I didn’t have much of an opinion on him, and come up with some Dwarven headcanon.
*HUGS YOU LIKE WHOA* thank you SO much, Nonnie. You are a stellar person, that is such a kind thing to do! I am completely thrilled you like the story (and that you love Dain as well!)
It is almost hilarious how much the gigolas hate anon sounds like the bagginshield anons that have been exploding lately. Like word for word they also kept saying “unbalanced”. like what is this word i dont think it means what they think it means

LOLOLOL, exaaaaactly… and they didn’t give any reasons, or anything. Jeez, Gigolas is a tiny little tugboat of a ship comparatively, it’s usually a secondary pairing and not the main event.
idk, in retrospect I am thinking that this person may be a copycat, bc our dear Azog the Anon usually goes out of their way to give a zillion insulting “reasons” as to WHY they think it ‘unbalanced’ (i.e. the abuse argument, leading into the bilbo-as-special-sacrificing-snowflake argument, leading into the mental illness argument, leading into telling people what to ship and who to identify with, leading into.. yadda yadda wash rinse repeat). Also, I doubt Azog would bother with throwing the Iron Hills Dwarves into the mix when there is ship-shaming to be getting on with. So that suggests that it is probably a copycat who is just piggy-backing on the recent drama and targeting my particular little fandom idiosyncrasies.
To be frank, after seeing it so much, used in such an inept way, the word ‘unbalanced’ has begun to seem… sort of absurd. Now when I see the word ‘unbalanced’ when referring to a Hobbit or LOTR ship, I can’t help but picture them on a see-saw (or teeter-totter)… Bilbo high in the air looking miffed, Thorin looking puzzled on the ground. Or now, Gimli on the ground looking disgruntled while Legolas stands on the see-saw seat like the light-footed Elven show-off that he is 😀
Sending you positive vibes bc nobody deserves anon hate. And if that person truly detested gigolas and the iron hills dwarves then they should have left your blog and not bothered you. Please don’t let some close minded person get you down
You are very kind, Nonnie – thank you for the good vibes! I absolutely 900000000% promise I am not even the least bit upset. Seriously! They did a dumb thing, and I responded by showering love and sparkles all over the Iron Hills Dwarves 😀
I do hope this clown doesn’t bother anyone else, though.
@determamfidd just wanna say that don’t bother youself with those anons; you have the right to like anything you want, whatever rows your boat. Don’t take it personally when they try to put you down because they have problems on their own. Maybe they feel like it makes them feel better when they get to complain about someone else’s likes. Just ignore them, it’s their problem, not yours. DAIN FOR LIFE OK?
you absolutely beautiful human bean, thank you *hugs*. I am honestly not angry or upset or anything! It’s more amusing to me – I already shut ‘em down (with more research and positive enthusiasm than they were probably prepared for, lmao) so no worries!
DAIN FOR LIFE, DAMN RIGHT *fistbump*

