Tag: anon hate

Who’s the motherfucker coming up in your inbox?

noooo idea, some sad bitter loser. They were on anon, and I quote: “you are deluded and pathetic to promote the Iron Hills, they were racist scum who only turned up out of greed” and also apparently Gigolas is a “unbalanced, sick and disgusting” ship now, and I am disgusting for shipping it? (what…) Urgh. Love an anon hater. 

(Huh, writing it out like that, it feels like the same shit the Bagginshield fandom has had to deal with, only this person is getting no joy there any more and so they must be turning their attention to other ships pffft how sad can you get. Anyway, I blocked them, they won’t be coming at me any more!) 

Anyway, how are you, loveliest Rebel?

I honestly don’t even understand some of this anon hate… it seriously sounds more like people are bitter and bored and just want to feel like they have some tiny control over something when they really don’t, and they do know this. They get a kick out of being negative. I got a rather salty anon in my silverfisting account eluding to “i am so tired of seeing this ship, you’re terrible and pathetic” and I’m just like… stop looking at the ship??? We have xkit for a reason???? Oh well.

Seriously. I am becoming really inured to it, it appears! I wasn’t even mad, I was just… eh, RIGHT, let’s write something well-researched and fun and positive then, just to really piss ‘em off! BC it’s almost as though they’re just trying to get you riled so that they can appear as the ‘cool and collected and “””rational””” one’ pfffft.

Wow, I am sorry that happened to you! Such an utterly useless ploy and such teeny tiny ineffective little jerks – why the heck do they even bother saying something like that to an account that is clearly dedicated to that ship? Like, they have a snowball’s chance in hell of making you change your mind, lol. Are they a bit simple, praps? Yiiiiikes.

The bit that is making me snicker is that they came into my inbox to leave this steaming pile of donkey doo during Gigolas Week. Like – if I’d bothered to post that piece of patheticness, I can think of a least seven people without even putting on my thinking cap who would have DEMOLISHED it  – and then probably would have eaten the anon alive for good measure. Such good timing there!

You are such an amazing and kind person and you don’t deserve jerks popping into your inbox and giving you shit, I’m sorry you have to deal with that. If it helps, you’ve made me absolutely love Dain! I was fairly neutral on him before but after reading Sansukh and seeing you talk about him here he’s become one of my favorite dwarves! I hope you have a great day!

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thank you, Nonnie. You completely wonderful soul, you. I’m totally fine, really – it was a very clumsy half-baked attempt at getting me angry and defensive, it appears, based on a cursory sweep of my blog. It happens now and then, and I am becoming blase about it, I guess! 

i haven’t the faintest idea what they were doing here if they hate my interests so very much, but that shall remain a mystery, I suppose… I mean, Xkit exists…? Anyway, I’m not angry in the slightest, so they didn’t get what they wanted! Instead I researched and wrote up a great big manifesto about Iron Hills Dwarves! PRODUCTIVITY NOT WANK WHOOOOOP 😀

(And yes, that does make me very happy to hear indeed! HUZZAH *throws confetti* ALL THE DAIN AND IRON HILLS LOVE – and all the love to you too, Nonnie! *hugs and hugs* Thank you!)

LMAO what a thing to return to

I just got a rather awful anon ask from someone who says they have just gone through my blog and that I am ‘deluded and pathetic’ for a) shipping Gigolas, and b) liking the Iron Hills Dwarves, who are all racists and greedy.

As I have already said a hell of a lot about WHY I ship Gigolas (hahaha is 70 pages enough do you suppose) I am not even gonna go there. Ship-shaming is weak and stupid. As to the rest…well, rather than inflicting this negativity and nastiness upon all you nice people, I decided to simply block the troll, and then do something positive instead! 

So, here it is – 

SIX (ABRIDGED) REASONS WHY I LOVE THE IRON HILLS DWARVES

1. They are a settlement of refugees.

Right well, the Iron Hills have been mined by the Longbeards for centuries, but in actual fact the current settlement in the Iron Hills isn’t all that old. It was established in 2589 by the refugees of the Grey Mountains, who were fleeing a dragon (an ice-worm). They were led by Gror, Thror’s younger brother. 

(incidentally, the Dwarves of the Grey Mountains were themselves refugees, having fled to that place after Moria fell. And some significant part of Moria’s population were also refugees from the Broadbeam and Firebeard cities! SO MANY DIFFERENT CULTURES ALL SMOOSHED TOGETHER, SO MANY TIMES THE DWARVES HAD TO FLEE)

So at the exact same time when Thror went to re-establish Erebor (2589), his little bro was setting up shop (with the majority of the refugees) in the much MUCH poorer Iron Hills. 

After Smaug came to Erebor (2770), most of the survivors pour into the Iron Hills. Yes, they take the refugees in. We can only speculate as to why a small number of noble Dwarves wanted to move on to the Blue Mountains (pride, maybe?).

2. They keep going to the aid of others

Not even one generation passes before Thror is calling for them to uproot themselves and come to Khazad-dum (2799). They’re expected to throw their lives away after they’ve found some small measure of stability, all for a dangerous and orc- (and balrog, but nobody knew that at the time) infested place. 

They turn the tide of the War of Orcs and Dwarves. No really, they do. They die by the thousands (HALF the Dwarves died in that war!), they lose their leader, Gror’s son Nain, who is slaughtered on the steps of Khazad-dum. His son, the APPALLINGLY young Dain Ironfoot (32 years old) sees it all happen with his own eyes.

The survivors limp back home once again. Maybe this time they’ll get to stay.

Then in 2941 Thorin calls for aid at Erebor via raven, and off they go again. 

3. They are not wealthy.

Though the Hills are rich in Iron (and they stand at the natural junction for trade-routes between Rhun and the West), the Iron Hills never became as insanely, ridiculously, fabulously rich as their noble cousins. They’re miners first and foremost, and they seem to just stay out of drama and keep their heads down until some bugger calls them out to die (again). 

4. They’re sensible.

In the books, Thorin never petitions the Iron Hills to help him retake Erebor before the Quest. The first they ever hear of it is Thorin’s raven, requesting them to come fight two armies of Elves and Men. Yaaaay. 

It’s often not mentioned that the vast VAST majority of all Dwarves – including those in the Blue Mountains – also refuse to accompany Thorin. In fact, it’s strongly suggested that Thorin is making this journey a secret, to avoid alerting the same forces that thwarted his father (who disappeared doing the exact same thing, after all).

But leaving the movie-changes aside, it’s worth looking at this exchange from the LOTR appendices:

When at last the battle was won the Dwarves that were left gathered in Azanulbizar. They took the head of Azog and thrust into its mouth the purse of small money, and then they set it on a stake. But no feast nor song was there that night; for their dead were beyond the count of grief. Barely half of their number, it is said, could still stand or had hope of healing.
None the less in the morning Thrain stood before them. He had one eye blinded beyond cure, and he was halt with a leg-wound; but he said:
‘Good! We have the victory. Khazad-dum is ours!’
But they answered: ‘Durin’s Heir you may be, but even with one eye you should see clearer. We fought this war for vengeance, and vengeance we have taken. But it is not sweet. If this is victory, then our hands are too small to hold it.’
And those who were not of Durin’s Folk said also: ‘Khazad-dum was not our Fathers’ house. What is it to us, unless a hope of treasure? But now, if we must go without the rewards and the weregilds that are owed to us, the sooner we return to our own lands the better pleased we shall be.’
Then Thrain turned to Dain, and said: ‘But surely my own kin will not desert me?’ ‘No,’ said Dain. ‘You are the father of our Folk, and we have bled for you, and will again. But we will not enter Khazad-dum. You will not enter Khazad-dum. Only I have looked through the shadow of the Gate. Beyond the shadow it waits for you still: Durin’s Bane. The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durin’s Folk walk again in Moria.’

So, it’s worth recalling that in this moment, Dain 

  • has just lost his father, killed in front of his eyes
  • Just slew Azog.
  • saw something terrible through the doors of Khazad-dum
  • Is speaking to his King. He just shut his KING DOWN. 
  • IS 32 YEARS OLD. THAT IS YOUNGER THAN I AM NOW. and he has more sense in his little toe than I do in my entire BODY.

5. They would be familiar with the people/s of Rhun

Check out the map. The Iron Hills are about as far East as you can get without being in Rhun already… in fact, they are closer to Rhun than they are to any point in Rhovanion. They’re the logical trade-route for anyone wishing to move between the Eastern nations and the West. I like to think that there is a huge and civil cultural exchange between the Iron Hills Dwarves and the Dwarves of the Orocarni, resulting in a melting-pot of customs and the flourishing of new ideas and music and art and technology. 

I mean, the Dwarves of the Iron Hills would have already been a cultural blend of Longbeard, Firebeard and Broadbeam (fyi: Firebeards and Broadbeams both assimilated into Longbeard society in Khazad-dum, after their own cities were destroyed in the War of Wrath) … but only in that one place in all the world could you commonly find Dwarves of all seven clans living and sharing and trading and marrying harmoniously. I like that idea. I like it a lot. 

this is also the reason why i cannot ever hc the Iron Hills Dwarves as racist.

6. They RIDE. PIGS. 

‘Nuff said. 

So thank you, dear nasty haternon.. I am now even more determined to love Iron Hills Dwarves, to love their darling fuzzy faces in spite of your clumsy attempt to get me all riled up 🙂 I am doubly inspired to write about their awesomeness and loyalty and loss in the face of such spite. Perhaps I shall write some more music! 

In conclusion, the Iron Hills for Me. 

(also also – Gigolas is the ship that literally sails itself into the West, so bleh to you with a cherry on top.)

nnngh. Someone reposting one of my old fics from FFN to AO3. *grumps* Didn’t ask, at all. I’ve taken it down, but I’m bewildered as to their motives… I mean, they credited me as the author and said they loved the fic, but didn’t even contact me? *confused noises* That’s… not actually flattering, it just feels like I’m being stepped over.

In other news, I am streamlining and reworking the second chapter of I Comma Square Bracket… and I need to find a quiet moment today in which to get some recording done! I have a song for @gigolasweek… let’s hope I get the chance to get it recorded!

Finally, now that the fandom Thorin anon-hater has been exposed (and blocked), I am gonna tentatively try turning anon back on. Let’s hope it all stays nice! Baby steps, lol.

linddzz:

determamfidd:

I have Slytherin-hate in my inbox.

Ew.

Go away. Your opinion was absolutely not asked for, and it is very very unwelcome.

AHAAHAHAHA oh man is this the same person who was really really insistent that slytherins were basically all nazis and saying anything good about them was equal to liking nazis? Because man, that was an entertaining string of barely coherent asks.

Yeah, same person I am guessing. It was a lovely regurgitation of slytherins-as-nazis, dressed up as accusations and bullshit assumptions stretched so tightly you could see daylight through them. I particularly liked the bit where they assigned motivations to me and put their words in my mouth. I always like that ever so much *rolls eyes*

But why does everybody love Thorin? I don’t get it

linddzz:

Oh hey there! Am I assuming this is the anon that has been going around blog to blog but had yet to grace mine? Since you were mostly civil and not going for the usual condescending nonsense I see, I’ll answer legit for you.

I can’t speak for all of fandom of course, but I can at least tell you why I love Thorin Oakenshield. (Note that all this is talking about movie!verse Thorin, as that is largely what I base my character love off of)

Short answer is, he is complicated and overall good at heart, and that is generally my favorite kind of character.

Thorin is flawed, he’s temperamental, he’s driven and doesn’t always make the best decisions for his own health or in general. He isn’t satisfied with just letting things be or accepting things, as shown by his restlessness in the relatively thriving Ered Luin and his constant quests to go find his father, who everyone else has written off as dead.

He’s also someone with almost more heart than sense, in the end. He cares incredibly deeply. I love him for how much he cares about his home, about his family, how much he cares about his Company just because they swore loyalty to him, and how highly he regards that loyalty. He’s the sort who is obviously moved by their signing on with him, as shown with his conversation with Balin in Bag End. His main issue with Bilbo seems to be that he doesn’t think Bilbo can survive the quest, as he’s shown talking with Bilbo pretty easily once things are a little relaxed in Rivendell.

Thorin throws himself into danger for those he cares about, he is constantly seen yanking his Company members out of the way, pulling them along when they all start running, and even if he doesn’t like Bilbo, he still throws himself off a cliff to save him and then tells him to GO THE FUCK HOME BEFORE HE DIES. Not the best way to do it? Definitely. A bit harsh? Um. Yes. But A Bit Harsh is kind of how Thorin rolls, but harsh does not equal abusive.

I like him because I like complex characters. I like him for his gruff temper and bristly suspicious nature that he has that does not diminish or lessen how much he cares about things. I like him for the fact that sometimes I want to smack him upside the head with all of his going with his gut over his head in a lot of things.

I like him for the fact that despite all that, he can still see when he’s wrong, and doesn’t let his pride overcome it. He admits when he’s wrong and backs down! Multiple times! He gives Elrond the map when he realizes that yes, this is the best way to solve it’s puzzle. He nods and acknowledges that Gandalf was right in pointing out that Bilbo was the one who knew to stall with the trolls. As soon as he realizes Bilbo isn’t going to do anything like betray them or get himself killed, he admits he’s wrong, apologizes, and after that treats Bilbo like he’s one of them. He’s incredibly proud, but not so proud as to let it blind him (well…for most things at least lmao)

I like him because everything the dragon sickness turned him into just showed how NOT HIM it all was. The Company is worried about his rage, because he can usually keep it more in check. They worry about his suspicion, because he usually can be rational about it for most things. Bilbo’s horrified by his suspecting the company because it’s so NOT THORIN, the same guy who was proud of the loyalty they showed him and valued his word and honor above all else.

I like him because when he came through the sickness, when he came back. He did not say “It wasn’t me.” he did not say “I was just sick” which all would have been true. He took responsibility for his actions. He didn’t think he deserved loyalty and if no one ran out there with him he probably wouldn’t have held it against them in the slightest. He tries to make up for his extreme fuckups he did while sick, he is honestly surprised that Bilbo came back, his DYING WORDS are apologizing for what he did.

I love Thorin because Richard Armitage turned him into a cranky, grumpy dickweed who cares so fucking much about things that it looks like it physically pains him. If you don’t like him, then cool. Go on not liking him. I have a few tolkien friends who don’t like him. Know what we do? We talk about other stuff and are cool with the fact that we like things/characters that the other doesn’t like.

You don’t have to get it. And I don’t have to get you not liking him. It’s fandom. Let people like what they like.