Tag: anon hate

Sorry everyone for this shitstorm. Thank you to those who have been supportive. It sucks so much when your fave is always the target, and it’s nice to see that others actually understand that. It’s a hell of a reach and a bit ridiculous to call it ‘nerd elitism’ (easily refuted with a single look at my reclist, tbh) instead of what it is: unhappiness over a beloved character always and forever depicted as a scapegoat, an ass, a bigot or a laughing-stock.

Do. Not. Ever. Send. Anon. Hate. I repeat:

Do. Not. Ever. Send. Anon. Hate.

Thanks especially to those who have expressed sympathy to me, and given me advice on how to handle something that has blown up out of all proportion. I am not used to having a private opinion turn into an excuse for others to attack someone else. I am angry and disgusted at those who used me as their excuse to send hate: you appall me. 

If you knew anything about me, you’d know how much I despise anon hate. I do not want ‘defense’ like yours.

I will not be using this blog to have personal opinions on characters or whatever any more. I’m a bit sad that I have to take the ‘me’ out of this blog in order to make it palatable. It’s been my little escape, my little place for three years now, but apparently the rules are changing and I have to adapt. 

I am reaaaally not happy about being blamed for the words and actions of others. I have apologised already for my sad whine that others used to excuse sending anon hate to someone else. I do not need to apologise for things I have not said or done. The person who said those things is responsible for them. I do not condone or agree with any anon message that was sent to the other party. I am astonished that yet another negative and totally incorrect assumption is being made about me, and reported as ‘fact’, without even asking me. False accusations are very upsetting.

I do not feel it is my place to talk about another person’s personal life online, be it language status or place of residence, etc. Particularly if I don’t know anything about it. Because y’know – assumptions are usually wrong.

I am INCREDIBLY unhappy about being insulted and called ugly and derogatory names, all my hard work mocked and jeered at. I am a real person here, and that’s more hurtful than any character bashing. I have never seen such a mob mentality, all gleefully slagging me off without question or hesitation, putting the boot into me for something I didn’t even fucking do. 

I am frankly amazed at people who think it is okay to tell anyone to kill themself. Particularly someone with depression – like. Thanks a bundle, you absolute asshats, you really do your friend proud. 

I repeat:

Do. NOT. EVER. SEND. ANON. HATE.

I will leave my answers where they are. I do not have anything to hide – and it makes me glad in my friends to see that nobody has been insulted or attacked in the replies to my posts (something I can’t say about the anon haters – you still appall me, I want nothing to do with you). There’s no need to descend to that.

Anon is remaining off for the meanwhile, and if and when I ever choose to turn it back on, I won’t be answering anons who ask for my opinions again. I know, I know, and I’m sorry – I usually do my best to answer everyone, but again – I gotta adapt, it appears. 

Sorry again, all. And thank you again, to those who have expressed understanding and agreement. You’re golden.

WARNING: SCREAMING ANGER AHEAD

HAVEN’T I MADE IT CLEAR HOW I FEEL ABOUT ANON HATE

HEY ANON HATERS

I WAS NOT BEHIND THE FUCKING ANON HATE TO THE ARTIST GDI I HAVE NEVER SENT HATE IN MY WHOLE FUCKING LIFE

I ALWAYS PUT MY FUCKING NAME ON E V E R Y T H I N G I S A Y AND THIS IS FUCKING WHY

I HAVE TRIED TO TELL THE PERSON IN QUESTION THIS. STOP THE STUPID ACCUSATIONS. I SENT THEM A MESSAGE AND IT SEEMED TO GO THROUGH BUT NO RESPONSE

SO I CHECKED, AND THEY HAVE FUCKING BLOCKED ME, I CAN’T TELL THEM JACK SHIT, SO DON’T FUCKING TELL ME TO APOLOGISE OR KILL MYSELF YOU ABSOLUTE ASSHOLES

ESPECIALLY WHEN I DIDN’T. SEND. ANON. HATE!!!!! 

YOU KNOW WHAT – IN MY POSTS (WHICH WERE ANSWERS TO OTHER PEOPLE’S QUESTIONS, OH MY GOD, I TRY TO ANSWER EVERYONE BC I WANT TO BE POLITE) I DIDN’T EVEN FUCKING NAME THEM

AND D’YOU KNOW WHY? BC I DIDN’T WANT TO FUCKING. RUIN. THEIR. DAY. I DIDN’T WANT MY ANON ANSWERPOSTS TO SHOW UP IN THEIR TAG ON MOBILE TO BRING THEM DOWN. I DIDN’T WANT TO DRAG THEM INTO MY OWN LITTLE MISERY.

AND NOW THEY HAVE BLOCKED ME AND ARE CALLING ME FUCKING HORRIBLE NAMES, BEING DEROGATORY ABOUT MY HEADCANONS ETC, AND SO ARE THEIR FOLLOWERS. SAYING THAT I SHOULD BE ‘NAMED AND SHAMED’

FOR.

WHAT.

YOU.

DID.

HEY ANON HATERS

LET ME PARAPHRASE YOUR BULLSHIT FOR YOU:

YES GOD FORBID I BE UPSET ABOUT THINGS THAT UPSET ME, CAN’T I TAKE A FUCKING JOKE, HOW DARE I WISH FOR NICE THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY, DON’T I KNOW IT’S BETTER TO SHUT THE FUCK UP IF I KNOW WHAT’S GOOD FOR ME, DON’T I KNOW THAT CANON DAIN IS SHIT, APOLOGISE FOR SENDING HATE (WHICH I DIDN’T HOLY FUUUUUUUUCK) OR KILL YOURSELF, PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO UNREPENTANTLY BASH DAIN WITHOUT OTHERS GETTING UPSET, GETTING UPSET IN PUBLIC IS FUCKING WEAK, BASHING DAIN ISN’T REALLY CHARACTER BASHING, AND I’M A PIECE OF OVERRATED SHIT

HEY ANON HATERS

STOP TRYING TO REIGNITE THIS CLUSTERFUCK YOU BEGAN AND

GO

THE FUCK

AWAY

Rudeness aside can you not make posts acting like you’re a martyr based on fictional characters? People are allowed to hate whoever they want, and Bruce Banner is still a hugely popular character. You know because you’re a BNF you can control reactions, which is why this looks hugely passive aggressive and manipulative.

Snrk.

Breaking news: Being anxious and frustrated, and defusing that anxiety by talking about it in a little mutter-post on your personal blog is in fact ‘acting like a martyr’.

Nonnie, there is a cut. It is tagged ‘personal blah blah.’ You did not have to click it. That is, in fact, WHY there is a cut, and the tag ‘personal blah blah.’ So people don’t have to read it if they don’t want to be affected by my personal life, and my personal opinions. 

I take measures to protect myself from nasty people, rudeness, hatred and bashing of my faves. You can do the same! Isn’t the world a wonderful place!

This is a personal blog. OH NO. Dear lord, don’t complain or be anxious or nervous or talk about things that matter to you on a personal blog. How dare you! It’s so rude to see personal opinions on a personal blog! Why, that’s so personal!!!

I repeat: PERSONAL.*throws the FAQ at you*

I ain’t stopping them. Just commenting on something I see that makes me nervous, and sad for one of my faves.  

I am also allowed to hate a particular trend. On my blog. Which is personal.

Urgh, I hate that fucking term. BNF. It’s stupid. I am a fan. Hey, I’m Dets. I am 33, I am wearing pink bunny slippers, I have coffee in my hand, I haven’t brushed my hair. I. Am. A. Person. I am not some stupid acronym you can use to take away my personhood, limit my fandom interactions, and make me sound more powerful than I actually am.

*wiggles fingers at laptop* ooooooh I’m controooooolling your miiiiiiind

You, by sending this (and on anon, no less!), are attempting to control my reactions and actions. You are in fact telling me how to act. By reducing me to some dumb names. I think you win the Passive Aggressive award for the day.

You must be so proud.

i saw the film and the moral that says mental illness makes ppl violent abusers is bad??? do you know how many ppl think all mentally ill ppl will snap and turn violent and use that to abuse the mentally ill ,, bc that is what thorin’s character is saying. ppl who think mentally ill ppl are walking time bombs and who want them dead will see thorin and feel justified even in the fucking story other characters treat him like that and the movie justifies it so????

baggvinshield:

this jumbled mess of bullshit you sent me let me try to untangle it

  • thorin is not abusive in the film. he is not an “abuser.” he does not abuse anyone. he does not participate in abuse. i don’t know how many different ways i have to say this. abuse means something specific and it definitely doesn’t mean having your mental state compromised and losing your temper
  • you’re saying that thorin suffering from a mental illness = thorin is a violent abuser. do you not see where this is problematic? are you unable to see that your own interpretation of the film is ableist? the film didn’t tell you this, it’s how you’re seeing it, and you need to adjust. your perception. bc the film didn’t tell you that thorin is abusive – you got there all on your own.
  • are you unaware that there are forms of mental illness that result in poor impulse control, violent outbursts, and unintended actions? 
  • no one in the films wanted thorin dead except the orcs?? who are literally vessels of evil and hate??? 
  • mostly i just wonder why in the world you would want to stop people with mental illnesses from taking comfort in thorin’s character, or any character.
  • if you feel so strongly about this why don’t you post about it on your own blog and take credit for your… opinions instead of harassing people anonymously.

is this fucking argument still making the rounds… god almighty, I hoped it had died. I’m not naturally aggressive, as a rule, but this gets me steamed.

Okay, you know what is SUPREMELY ableist? 

Infantilising people with mental illnesses to the point of telling us what we can and cannot enjoy. And even further – reducing us to a point-scoring concept. Speaking for us and over us, as though we have no voices or opinions of our own; no self-awareness or perception of our own. damn. lives. 

Anon, go fuck yourself.

No love, 

A person with mental illness (who adores Thorin Oakenshield).

To sum up, asshat anon: SOMEONE ELSE told Dets they took her work as canon. She was flattered. You then called HER arrogant because of something SOMEONE ELSE SAID. When she pointed that out, you said she can’t handle criticism. (1/2)

(2/2) You’re criticizing her for shit she didn’t do, moving the goalposts on your complaint when called on it, and STILL haven’t complained about anything she ACTUALLY DID. Figure out what you’re mad at, put your damn name on it, and get back to us.

Thanks, Jezi. You’re a pal. 

Welp, apparently the fact that people like Sansukh is a moral failing on my part? I’m still not sure exactly what it is that I am being attacked for. Is Sansukh’s popularity a crime now? Ah, let’s ignore this from here on, everybody. If this person comes back, I’ll just block em. I’m done giving them any more of my time. 

There’s a reason why certain fan fics are Popular (with a capital P). They’re not always perfectly written – grammar and spelling wise. But there is something in the STORY, something that speaks to the hearts of the readers, something that resonates with them and fills in the gaps that canon cannot or will not fill. A good writer (and Dets, you’re definitely one of them) will take the legitimate critical feedback and GROW. But hating on a fic for just being popular? Good god anon get a grip.

It’s just a thing that happens, I suppose. You can’t please everybody, and it was always going to get haters. That’s okay, nothing is ever universally loved, and I’m fine with that fact. There are popular fics and ships in each of my fandoms that I personally cannot stand. But I wouldn’t go trumpeting that to the authors, or whine that the people who love it are somehow wrong (or better yet, are Svengali’d into mindlessly loving it, pfffft), or that I am the sole shining beacon of the One True Way. I just ignore it, generally. That’s what the ‘block’ button is for (oh, and AO3 saviour!). 

I’m not upset or anything, just a little bemused.This anon is not only calling me arrogant (for what??? for answering people’s questions?), but is suggesting that everyone who has ever felt anything for Sansukh is wrong. I’m scratching my head a bit at that: it is impossible to do fandom wrong. Unless, of course, you send anon hate – or tag your hate, or exclude people on the basis of race/ability/gender/sexuality etc, but that’s another conversation I suppose. We all engage with the source material in different ways, and with different things. That’s great, that’s what it should be about. 

You’re very kind, Nonnie, thank you for your support. 

Nope, I’m that anon. Your fans are so rabid in your defense that you think anything that isn’t glowing praise is hate. There’s a culture of popular fics not being allowed to get criticism because fans think it’s a personal attack. Anyone who doesn’t think your fic is God’s gift to Tolkien fandom gets crapped on because you never accepted any criticism.

Hmmmm. 

Here they are again. 

Apparently I am now responsible for the actions of others, too. Love that. 

Actually, I do accept criticism – if it’s legitimate. If it is not, I don’t. I freely admit when I don’t know something. I look stuff up. I correct my mistakes, when they’re kindly pointed out to me. I’m happy to be wrong. I’m just a human being, and this is my hobby. I am not being paid to do this, and so I have no obligation to listen to people who think I am ‘doing it wrong’. As though you can actually do fandom wrong. I would still be thinking up headcanons and diving headlong into research even if Sansukh had three kudos to its name. This is something I like doing, for me. 

(Also, it might here be mentioned – I don’t like my own writing on the best of days. I think it is occasionally too flowery, sometimes dragging. I am a horrible critic of a thing I do for my own enjoyment. You may wish to remember that, the next time you vomit out the accusation that everybody thinks Sansukh is ‘God’s Gift’.)

There is no criticism in your message above – nothing constructive. Nothing about the fic at all. Nothing about the writing, or characterisation, nothing about grammar or spelling. Nothing that is useful to me. Nothing. Only complaints that my fic is too popular, and that I am somehow (magically?) puppeteering everyone to fawn over it. 

Therefore from the message above I can only assume that you’re auditioning for the role of whining infant. I’m afraid that I already have a sad baby in my life (still teething, URGH), and so…

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