Tag: bagginshield.

To you all: thank you so very much, you are delightful and generous human beings. I am so glad you enjoy the story! Thank you for the beautiful compliments, I’m very grateful and touched. *hugs* It’s a huge joy to me to play in this world that we all love.

*puts together a care-package for the last nonnie* SORRY BOUT THAT. 

Did you start shipping Gimli/Legolas because of Sansukh? The same thing happened to me.

bigmamag:

YEP. Well, more like it fueled my intense love of it. I got curious over the pairing for some reason I can’t remember, and I read one fic and enjoyed it fine. Then jadedhavok rec’d Sansukh to me and it went from “oh they’re kind of adorable” to “THEIR LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL AND PERFECT AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO CLAW MY EYES OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE UNWORTHY OF GAZING UPON THIS PURITY.”

Edit: It did, interestingly enough, got me to ship Bagginshield. I always hear it’s the other way around. I didn’t much care about the pairing either way until this fic, and now I’m bagginshield trash it’s amazing hallelujah. 

i shall convert all, i say, ALL SHALL LOVE GIGOLAS AND DESPAIR

seriously, though – thank you! I’m really chuffed!

So i know dwarves are very secretive about khuzdul and all, but how would they feel about teaching it to a non-dwarf spouse? (As in, would it be frowned up for Thorin to teach Bilbo or for Gimli to teach Legolas -ignoring the elven factor?)

Gimli would teach Legolas anyway, and cheerfully toss all the disapproving and the scornful into the trash. And laugh heartily at Legolas’ absolutely AWFUL accent and his inadvertent vocab gaffes (”Ah, no lad – you just said “I hope you have a nice bowel movement”. “Ai, I only meant to wish him a good day!” “Well, perhaps a nice bowel movement means a good day for him, you never know. With a sour face like that, in fact, it seems quite likely.” “Meleth nin, you are not helping me here.” )

I expect Bilbo would be INCREDIBLY eager to learn. He loves languages, after all. He probably wouldn’t push to learn, bc cultural taboo, but I bet he’d store all those little commonly said words away where he can pore over them later. LANGUAGES, OH MY. (To his chagrin, he later discovers that most of them are curse-words. Well, the language most people swear in is their mother-tongue, and Thorin did stub his bare toe…)

Culturally, yeah – I think that society would be a bit divided on the issue. Some would consider it only right and proper that a non-Dwarven spouse learn their native tongue. Others would be horrified that an outsider was being coached in their secrets. I don’t think it would be a monolithic disapproval though: Dwarves like an argument, they wouldn’t all uniformly agree.

So I remember reading that you started to ship gigolas when you first read the trilogy, but when and why did you start shipping bagginshield?

oh gosh, okay. I might have been in my mid-teens? Or there abouts?

I was FULL-ON into the first flush of my Tolkien obsession. Devouring everything in sight, buying second-hand copies of books, etc. And I decided to (for nostalgia’s sake) re-read the Hobbit, directly after reading LOTR (again). 

I had initially considered Balin/Bilbo (bc in the books they are adorbs and Balin is so fond of the Hobbit, and visits him and everything) as a ship, but as I read, I considered that ‘hmmm. Thorin is a pompous windbag in this, but he is also pretty badass. And Bilbo decides to follow him. Hmm.’

And so, a multishipper was born 🙂

although we are totally spoilt for choice, i must say that one of my favourite ever lines is Ori’s “you mean he knows?” in Ch9. ABSOLUTELY GLORIOUS. ALWAYS MAKES ME CACKLE. I just love how you manage to encapsulate so much in a single sentence. To me it just represents the thorough lack of subtlety all round from start till end from basically everyone re bagginshield: the exasperation, the incredulity, how everybody knew except, naturally, thorin, and how much headdesking must have occurred.

SO much headdesking. SO MUCH. Every desk ever, covered in little dints from the repeated impacts of twelve Dwarven foreheads. 

I mean, the Bagginshield in Sansukh was eventually an open secret to just about everyone – except the main players. 

Ha, yeah! TOTALLY unsubtle, Ori. But to be fair, Ori was totally incredulous that – really? Finally really truly? Has he actually figured it out, can we stop not-saying the bleeding obvious now?

Bofur was still a bit steamed about it all, even two years later. Gloin found it all inexpressibly sad. 

(Actually – during the Quest, Gloin became very good at surreptitiously stepping on Oin’s foot at appropriate moments. Oin isn’t the most diplomatic of Dwarves, and he was on the verge of just barking it out at least twice a day. What? Not like he would have had to listen to the fallout. Ear trumpet busted. You know.)

It’s the only bet that Nori never collected on. He’s STILL a bit salty over it. 

Floored me for a second when I remembered how far Sansukh!Thorin’s come, y’know? Even though he’s dead he’s grown so much (guess there wasn’t a lot of time to do much else ha). Then it just gets me excited at the idea of Bilbo getting to more know about THIS Thorin, who’s become so much more than he was. But Thorin’s perceptiveness about Bilbo’s secret-keeping kinda made my heart hurt :< Oh how the turned tables (;D)

Yeah, these turns have definitely tabled. 😉

Thorin has grown SO much. It reaaaaally hasn’t been easy (and it STILL won’t be, because these things do not just disappear – we just become better at managing them). He’s lucky that he has such wholehearted support, really. 

Poor Bilbo. Whereas Thorin has a lot of time and a lot of support, Bilbo is very solitary – by choice, certainly, but it means he hasn’t really dealt with all this heavy stuff. EVER. He’s locked it all away in his heart, safe as Rings, and gets very huffish and cross whenever anybody gets too near to the truth.

bc he is a suspicious secretive snappish old duffer

Still, now the turns have well and TRULY tabled. Bilbo is now the observer, whereas that was Thorin’s role for so long. Thorin has been through this massive learning journey already, and Bilbo is only beginning.