I know this is a dark question but… Who had the most traumatic arrival to the halls? Hrera or Fris? Thror or Thrain? Fili or Kili? Or even Thorin or Dain? I know this is such a dark question to ask but I’m curious!

ohgod, um. I do have an answer to this, but yeah. It is dark.

This will be expounded upon in the fic itself to some degree later on, but if you want to be spoiled it’s under the cut. And it’s not very nice, sorry.

It was Thrain. Easily.

For most Dwarves who awake in the Halls, they have a moment or two of adjustment, of taking-stock. We see that in close detail in both chapter one of Sansukh, and in Endurance. In both cases, Thorin and later Dain have a period of grace in which they process what is around them before they return to their more recent memories. I rationalise this as Mahal trying to ease them into their new circumstances as best he can.

There’s also the circumstances in which each Dwarf died. Hrera and Fris were TERRIFIED, but they knew their end was upon them the minute Smaug trapped them and cut off their escape. Thorin had basically accepted his death as inevitable, as had Dain. Fili died trying to protect his brother, Kili died trying to avenge his: I can’t see either of them being conflicted about those choices. 

Thror would feel guilty about his death, of course (as does Balin). Khazad-dum ever tempts their pride, and they were so foolish, so blind… but it is done now. Many of Balins’ Dwarves who tried to retake Moria were still caught up in their last fight, actually, but they soon settle. The calm stasis of the Halls is in fact there for a reason: it actually helps them heal.

(Oin had a fairly stupendously horrific entry into the Halls, actually. He still has sweating-nightmares of the flash of teeth, the stink of something wet and rotten, the snap of his own bones…)

But Thrain, though. Thrain was tortured by SAURON for nine years. Sauron the Deceiver, the Lord of Nightmares, the master of phantoms, the Shadow himself. Remember, “his dominion was torment.”

Thrain had no idea of knowing what was real, and what was not. Thrain had been living in induced hallucinations, over and over and over, insensate at times, violent at others, drifting in and out of the horror-scape Sauron created to try and coax his secrets out of him. He has seen his family a million times, only to discover that they are nothing but cruel visions, a taunt, a torture. Thrain does not trust safety. He does not trust his own Maker.

So, when Thrain arrives in the Halls, to him it is another hallucination. Mahal’s presence is a lie, a profane and obscene lie! To him, it is only Sauron once again wearing the guise and voice of Thrain’s own Maker, because there is nothing he holds sacred, nothing of his that Sauron cannot strip from him.

His family is a taunt, an insult. He does not believe it. He cannot believe it. He attacks them, and then retreats into corners, and cries and cries. 

He stares at anything but his family. He will not answer when they speak to him. He shivers, because he is always cold. He was never warm, never. He lashes out and then he scurries back to cram himself into his corner again, trying make himself as small as possible, eyes white and wide and wild.

It takes an entire week for them to coax him out of the sepulchre-room he wakes in. 

Fris stays with him constantly for the first few years. The first months utterly break her heart, and she weeps bitterly in private when he cannot see. Thrain will not look at her or answer her, he will not take anything from her hand. 

But Fris is a Dwarf and she perseveres. His parents spend time sitting with him too. One day, he lets Hrera comb his hair. It feels like a bigger victory than anything else has ever been.

Slowly, fearfully, he begins to believe. Fris sing to him, all her old bawdy and silly songs, and she nearly breaks down when he begins to mumble along. He spends time with Mahal, grounding himself in that presence and that love. The slow, stable, cool healing of the Halls works its magic on him, over time. He devotes himself to caring after his family; his children, his beautiful Fris, his parents, his cousins. He starts crafting difficult, meticulous pieces in order to keep his focus on the here-and-now. 

He still lapses at times.

He has to leave the pool of Gimlin-zaram if he is triggered, because his PTSD and panic attacks are just so extreme. He can hyperventilate or cry silently, he can turn violent, or dissociate to the point of complete nonverbal shutdown.

Those are not good days. Those are the Bad Days. 

And THAT is why Custard is Thrain’s service animal. 

Gimizh asking ALL the questions about Oin and it’s generally sad and awkward for everyone.

OUCH, NONNIE.

because Gimli will be coming home with the Book of Mazarbul. And ofc everyone will finally find out why the Moria colony has been silent, and that they’re dead, all of them. How they died twenty years ago, and nobody knew.

And Dori and Gloin and Dwalin will be mourning, and their families too, and Gimli, who has had time to come to terms with this (well, a bit, in-between fighting for his life/running across Middle-Earth/falling in love with dumb Elves) will hear a small voice pipe up with, “Who’s Oin?”

And oh, the look on Gloin’s face would hurt. Because Gimizh will never know the clever, funny, generous, boisterous, gruff old fellow who taught Gimli how to walk in a mine, how to play a jug, how to dress and clean a wound in the field.

Gimizh will never know the person who inspired his mother to become a healer.

(aaaaand on that note, Balin son of Dwalin will never meet the Dwarf he is named for. ohgod oh ouch)

AUGH. It’s too early for these feels, Nonnie.

I KNOW I KNOW NONNIE

I KNOWWWWWW

here is the text on Tolkien Gateway – warning, ORI, OIN AND BALIN FEELS.

ALSO FRAR, LONI AND NALI FEELS.

MORIAAAAA GAH, the angst that never stops angsting. *cries into her beard* 

In answer to your question: I think Dori would read it. I do. It has been twenty-five years, no word, not a sign. He would read it simply to find out what happened at long last – and then he would forever wish that he had not.

Now I’m thinking of a Sansukh AU where not only does Dain die, but Thorin Stonehelm as well (for story’s sake assume no baby or Bomfris dies), and Dwalin ends up becoming King Under The Mountain. It would be … interesting, especially with how long he lives. (Also Crown Prince!Wee Thorin)

that is a LOT of dead Dwarves, yikes!!!

Dwalin as King Under the Mountain, good gravy. I think he would do his best… and i think he would have hated it a lot, Dwalin has always been so loyal to others, he is a perfect second-in-command but not a leader…

I can just imagine the shade of Balin nearly in tears at his little brother’s attempts at ‘diplomacy’. I mean, even Thorin, Mr “ishkh khakfe andu null!” himself, has more tact. Under Dwalin’s rule I expect that the relations between the Mountain and the Wood would rapidly deteriorate!

So, I’ve been rereading Sansûkh, and I was watching the Fellowship of the Ring with my family earlier. When they got to the Chamber of Mazarbul all I could think of was how devastated Balin was. Then Pippin did his thing and I burst out laughing and my mom asks what was so funny and I replied, “Poor Grechar!!” and kept laughing. She didn’t get it, but it made my day and I though I’d share. Thanks for such an amazing fic!! xoxo <3

HAHAHAHAH OH DEAR

Poor Grechar, down the well! *hugs* I am sorry – even I find it hard to watch Gimli’s grief in Moria now, because Oin and Ori and Balin seem to be hovering just there. 

Augh. What did I dooooooo. 

aviva0017:

The dwarf ladies are multiplyiiing XD  Dwerís daughter of Nerís, the badass warrior mother of Balin and Dwalin, as usual from determamfidd‘s fic Sansûkh. ❤ I don’t think she’s had a single line, but I totally love the story of how she met and ended up courting Fundin. (I sorta wanna draw that at some point XD -puts it on the never ending list-)

Considering that Balin and Dwalin look almost nothing alike, I headcanoned that they probably each took predominantly after one parent.  It should be pretty obvious which is which ;p (Though Balin got Dwerís’ deep brown eyes, while Dwalin got his father’s green.)  Dwalin also got his height from his mother- you’d better believe she’s taller than Fundin, though not quite as huge a height gap as their children. xD

-forever basks in my love of dwarf ladies-

OH MY GOD

Yes yes, a thousand times yesssssssssssss!!! I’ve always seen Fundin as more of a scholarly type, rather like a lawyer, and Dweris as the kind of person who throws themself into perfecting their martial arts! AND YAAAS SHE IS TOTALLY TALLER THAN FLUFFY CHUBBSTER FUNDIN. I love eeeeet holy shit. ❤

Her eyes! SCARS YUS OH WOW – and her tattoos! The haaaaaaaaaaaair *dies the death of fab Dwarrowdam hair* THE little mohawk and gaaaaaaah the bead on her ear and UNF she is so gorgeous, Avi! I love her lips, and her lovely dwarfy nose – you are a star, thank you so so mUCH!