Tag: bifur

All of the Company’s dark names are PERFECT for them (though Dori’s made me sad :() I find it oddly sweet that both Bifur’s and Ori’s are to do with light. Bifur’s sounds like it makes him the Arwen of the Company :P

Awwww, thank you Nonnie! I am really glad you like them! (I KNOW – AUGH DORI)

I love Bifur’s, myself. Absolutely love it. And I love that it can refer to both his gentler and more creative side, and also the wilder side of him (because, of course, twilight is when all the night creatures come out to play!). 

The physically affectionate dwarves are one of my absolute favourite things the movies gave us, and I love how much it features in Sansukh. Bifur especially makes me laugh, just casually flinging his arms around people or patting them on the head. Open affection, yay!

Thank you, Nonnie! And – heck yeah Bifur! I ADORE BIFUR SO MUUUUUUCH. IDK, I just feel like he would be the cuddliest Dwarf ever. It’s the flip side to his berserker mode. Open, honest affection FTW!

As a person raised bilingual using only one lang. in the house and the other for everything else, it makes sense (in my mind) that all the Dwarves would probably think in a mixture of Khuzdul and Westron-like, if one word was shorter to think or described a concept better, then that’s probs the one they’d default to, at least mentally ^^ (although to never slip up would require a level of self-control over the language that I’ve never had-i often use expressions from 1 lang. wrongly in the other

Ahhhh, awesome, Nonnie! That is hugely appreciated, thank you!

That’s a really great point, the defaulting to the more suitable/expressive word in either language. I have been trying to slip in the odd word or phrase of Khuzdul for ALL the Dwarves, particularly in emotionally charged moments, so that it comes across as a very powerful language that can convey feelings and concepts that are inexpressible in Westron. With Bifur, hopefully it feels more like he is defaulting to Khuzdul rather than the other way around. *headdesks* I’m really grateful that you told me this, thank you so much – it will seriously help with the way I use Khuzdul from now on. *hugs*

Regarding Bifur and language, is his difficulty (or seeming difficulty, anyway) with Westron due to the years he spent being unable to speak it? Or do you imagine he had difficulty with language even before his injury? (Congrats on the good writing day, and have a good Easter weekend if that’s something you celebrate!)

Hey Nonnie! Thank you so much, have a great weekend as well!

Yeah, it’s due to the many years he spent speaking (and thinking) primarily in Khuzdul. I have him lapsing between languages mid-sentence, using a word/idiom here or there in the middle of his Westron. I honestly am not sure if he would have had this difference before his injury! Possibly. You never know with Bifur!

Okay, I’m riffing on a theme here. I’m writing all Dwarves as conditionally bilingual: Khuzdul is secret and sacred, and so it would be reserved for privacy, for home, for the Mountain, and for ceremony. I’m guessing that there are a great many Dwarves who think primarily in Westron, as it is the language of the outside and of the open air, and over the past few centuries the Dwarves have had precious little security and privacy in which to speak their own tongue exclusively.

So, Bifur still thinks primarily in Khuzdul. I think he’d be happy with that, though, and see no reason to change himself: he’s perfectly understood nowadays, and there is no reason for secrecy anymore, not surrounded by Dwarves and only Dwarves.

IDK, I’m just musing here! Love to hear people’s thoughts, especially bilingual people!

I love the blend of Westron and Khuzdul that Bifur uses in Sansukh. I guess after decades of only using Khuzdul would make it more likely that you’d code switch back all the time and that Westron would be more like a second language. It’s a really great character detail :) Have a great weekend, Dets!

Aw, thank you! I love writing Bifur, even if he’s very difficult to write. Gosh, I have spent more time with my nose in the Khuzdul dictionary for Bifur than for all the other characters combined! I’m really glad you like, Nonnie! Wishing you a wonderful weekend too!

I suddenly found myself wondering how exactly Dori will react when he gets to the Halls and his baby brother is in a relationship. Since he’s kind of a mother hen, actually, he /is/ a mother hen but I don’t have a clear image of exactly how he will react? (Also I can’t believe I didn’t realize you were the one who wrote From One Age to Another, which is the fic that got me shipping Gimli and Legolas in the first place, sooner)

Awwwww, thank you so much! I am still superly duperly fond of my first Gigolas one-shot, I am very happy you enjoyed it! FUCK YEAH GIGOLAS.

Weeeelll, yep, Dori is totally a mother-hen. I don’t like portraying him as controlling or dictatorial, though. So: expect fussing, but not threatening behaviour or forbidding Ori to see Bifur, or any of that sort of thing. 🙂