storieshaped replied to your post: kailthia asked:You’ve talked abou…
But what does Thror think of Bilbo? 😀
storieshaped replied to your post: kailthia asked:You’ve talked abou…
But what does Thror think of Bilbo? 😀
skjdhflajsgfajsalhdfal SO ADORABLE AHHHH I LOVE BELLADONNA SO MUCH
(I bet it’s the one Bilbo took when he left Bag End in lotr ahhhh)
Hi there Nonnie!
Ooooh, okay. Well, here are my ideas.
I think that Bilbo was more than a little exasperated, with himself AND with Thorin, tbh. It’s one of Bilbo’s default positions, in my head: something happens, I SHALL BE IRRITATED ABOUT IT. THERE SHALL BE GRUMBLING. ALSO MUTTERING.
His little attraction was inconvenient and impossible and completely ill-advised, and furthermore the Dwarf in question was intolerably rude. Oh, Baggins, you have to get a grip on yourself not like that and focus on the matter in hand also not like that. There are far more important things to deal with!
Now, if only the dratted Dwarf would stop… looking like that. Utterly insupportable.
Later, of course, after Bilbo had proven himself and after Thorin had learned to appreciate the odd prim little creature he had dragged into the wilds, Bilbo did a lot of scolding himself. You’re friends now. Friends! No – no don’t smile at me, you dratted… oh botheration. Friends. It’s not appropriate. You’re a Hobbit, a Baggins of Bag End. Comport yourself as one!
Oh, confusticate him!
Later still, Bilbo was just worried. Very worried. Worry worry worry. He also does a good line in fretting.
I don’t think he even hoped for so much as a relationship. It was a bothersome little secret all of his own. If he let his eyes linger now and then, it was his own business and nobody else’s. If he hovered close to hear that lovely voice, well, he wasn’t the only one who worried, was he?
I don’t think he ever considered what would happen if everything had turned out for the best. He still wanted his own home, after all: his books, his garden, his armchair, his fireplace, his kettle whistling merrily on the stove. It was only after he came back to them that he found that they were not quite as he remembered.
I don’t think he would have stayed in Erebor. Balin would probably have died of mortification if anyone had suggested making Bilbo a diplomat. I mean, Bilbo is learned and clever, and terribly terribly brave – but patient he is not. Also, he says some truly spectacular gaffes now and then. (The ‘Furrier’ comment springs to mind. Also – a gentlehobbit talking to Bard and the Elvenking in a proper, haughty Shire business manner – like he is a debtor. !!!)
And of course, Thorin was meant to be King. Thorin was meant to have a home, the Dwarves were meant to belong somewhere at long last. Bilbo wouldn’t have dreamed of interfering with that.
Absolutely impossible, all of it.
(Yes, we are definitely seeing more of our evasive private and prickly old Hobbit’s POV! He’s too much fun to write!)
Thank you again, Nonnie 🙂
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost
Thorin can’t find his bum with both hands and a map,
and that’s why this poem is about Aragorn.
Hi Nonnie!
I do enjoy that idea. I haven’t used it, obviously, but it is one that I like a lot. I know that Tolkien said something along the lines of keeping the female Dwarves in the Mountains etc, but my own prejudices and inclinations don’t much line up with that! It seems oppressive and isolating and controlling to me. I dislike the total invisibility of anything other than the male Dwarves, so I made my horde of Dwarrowdams. But I do also enjoy stories where one or more of the Company is female, be they cis, trans or other.
I particularly like the idea that perhaps Dwarves have a different concept of gender and gender identity than the other races. dain-mothafocka has some truly awesome ideas on Orocarni dwarf gender. Tolkien DOES say that female Dwarves are basically indistinguishable from the boys, too. So I think – why not? Bilbo wouldn’t have been able to tell just by looking at them, their culture is not his (and tbh, unless they say so explicitly to him, it’s not his business).
(I see Ori or Kili written as female most often: myself, I would LOVE to see more AUs where it is Gloin and/or Bifur. Mama Bear and badass berserker vegetarian, yes please!)
Bilbo poetry: depressing Sansukh edition.
Ey, you all knew it was coming. Don’t look at me like that.
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I sit inside this empty room
Alone inside my head
Echoes of love within this tomb
Broken sobs of the dead
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Ragged halves of a whole
Cursed to be forever apart
A tortured soul
A broken heart
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K I L I W H Y
Headcanony things to follow, all totally subjective!
They’re receding, yes. Mentions of the Ring can bring a resurgence of vague anger, possessiveness and secretiveness. However, as his mind begins to drift and age creeps up on him at last, the obsession is beginning to fade. It took the very sight of it to bring Bilbo to near-violence, after all… and even then he controlled himself (brrr).
The Elves have not really been subjected to any unpleasantness: these matters, as Bilbo would say, are his own private business and no nosy busybodies need go poking about. He would most likely seclude himself when he has a “funny turn”. I expect he always did, tbh, and didn’t realise that it was the Ring encouraging to do so, pushing him further into his own isolation.
Thank god for Frodo.
It’s remarkable, actually, just how resilient Hobbits are – and Bilbo in particular. I honestly don’t know if anyone else could have carried the Ring for so long, and retained so much of themselves. But yeah. Thank god for Frodo. Those 12 years that Bilbo lived with Frodo might (and this is just a personal idea) have been the saving of him.
(And you are super-sweet to say so! Thank you so much!)
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So god this is embarrassing. I made up a little ditty for ‘I sit beside the fire and think’ from chapter 10 of Sansukh and I’ve been humming it all day so I decided to record it. I will probably delete this out of embarrassment at some point so listen while you can. (The things I find myself doing for determamfidd’s creation)
Inspired by Sansukh and Dain Ironfoot’s battle piggies, some heraldic scribbles for the line of Durin
The basic shield of the kings of Erebor would have a crown above, with a black chevron representing the mountain under an arc of 7 stars. Beyond this base, each king would have personal elements.
Dain’s Arms have a hammer crossed with his red axe under the mountain, with a raven in flight above, a chevronel under the black to represent his lordship of the Iron Hills, and has, most importantly, boar supporters.
Notes for the Arms of Thror and Thorin under the cut.
lkjsdhfljashgdfaljhfdsal OH MY GOD HERALDRY
*dies and is transported to heaven*
YOU ARE A GEM BEYOND COMPARE OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING. And I ADORE your thoughts on them!!! Gosh, thank you!
I honestly don’t know. Most of Thorin’s family were, at the time, rather preoccupied with the very angry, very guilt-ridden, PTSD -riddled, very dead former King that had joined them, after all!
When I wrote that scene, also, it was LONG before even DOS had come out. And so I used the book-lines, rather than the eventual movie-lines: “Farewell, Thorin Oakenshield! And Fili and Kili! May your memory never fade!”