Any thoughts on Discworld daemons, if you don’t mind me asking?

dedicatedfollower467:

petermorwood:

elodieunderglass:

elodieunderglass:

hvkryter:

nestofstraightlines:

roachpatrol:

notbecauseofvictories:

Vimes has a mutt.

There’s really not a nicer way to describe her, a bow-legged cross between a terrier and a feral sewer rat, mostly the color of dishwater. And she doesn’t really clean up—it becomes more embarrassing after he’s married Sybil, whose pygmy hippo daemon can go from placid river god to defensive bellowing ferocity in seconds flat, and might as well have stepped from the Morpork coat of arms. But even freshly cleaned and trussed in a gold ducal collar, his daemon looks like it was dragged backwards through a nasty bit of the Ankh.

she’s a patient tracker, though, and a rat-worrier and a sheep-herder and a snarling, protective beast—there must be some wolf in that mongrel of yours, Wolfgang tells him on that snowy plain, and Vimes figures it’s pretty likely, he’s got a wolf in him too.

Vetinari has a golden orb-weaver, who only occasional deigns to make an appearance—usually resting on the back of Vetinari’s hand, as if to make a point. (There are heads of guilds with enormous bull daemons who shiver in fear of that little spider, on that pale hand.)

Carrot has a frankly impressive lioness, whose presence made the whole watch-house fall silent the first time Carrot walked in. Vimes had been a little taken aback at the sight of her, gold and somehow not of their world, standing in their grubby and undistinguished midst.

(No one has ever asked Carrot about her, not even Angua, who has her own lovely wolfdog daemon.)

Moist has a mockingbird who perches on his shoulder, the same color as dust and utterly forgettable. (In his old glory days, he would sometimes bring a turtle or mouse with him, hiding her under his hat—sorry, wrong daemon is not an ironclad alibi, but it’s enough of a distraction to run away.) She gets along well with Spike’s terrifying peregrine, though she’s a little too excited by the feeling of being snatched out of the air in Moist’s opinion.

William de Worde has a hedgehog, who immediately curled up in a ball when faced with Sacharissa Cripslock’s ermine. (It took a while to get him to relax.)

Witches tend toward cats—or women with cat daemons turn out to be witches, they never quite decided that one. Granny Weatherwax has pure grey cat, utterly unremarkable in every way but that. (She has always been privately disappointed in him, for it. She would have preferred something a little more imposing, more obviously witchy—which, of course, is ridiculous, it is choosing that makes a witch, not her nature. But still.)

Nanny has a fat piebald cat whose amorous adventures with other daemons rival Greebo’s—he’s been known to slip off for days, only returning when Nanny is called out. Magrat has a cream shorthair who looks very handsome beside Verence’s—slightly excitable, a little graceless—hare. Even Susan, though technically not a witch, has a cat daemon, a sleek black thing that likes to play with the Death of Rats when he’s bored.

Tiffany is among the few witches who doesn’t have a cat daemon—hers doesn’t settle until she faces the hiver, until she ushers it through the black door to its death. Afterwards, Tiffany Aching knows herself to be a witch, and walks the downs with her sheepdog daemon at her side, her hat full of sky.

Sgt Colin has a mild, pleasant brown toad, a sit-and-see kind of predator. Something with the patience to outlast storms, and droughts, and long frosts. Something with a set territory and a bottomless stomach, something that can launch itself sudden, startling blur to become the last thing the unwary insect ever sees. 

Nobby Nobbs, well— no one actually knows what his daemon is. She’s as matted and filthy and scrofulous as the rest of him, a dark, oil-iridescent clot of fur— or are those bristles? or matted feathers?— nestled in between the collar of his breastplate and the dirt-stiff rim of his shirt. Rat? Pigeon? Spider? No one wants to ask. No one wants an answer. Sometimes she will extend one scaly, brittle claw out into the open air, and he will deposit into it a sugar cube, or a coin, or a bright little shard of glass, and she— whatever she is whatever she’s named— will retreat into the comfortable hollow of his armor, purring and pleased. 

She can scream like hell though, and frequently will. 

Dorfl, of course, has a phoenix— when he opened his mouth to speak his first word, there she was, a scrap of flame, on his tongue. 

I love roachpatrol’s thoughts. The image of Dorfl’s daemon being born is beautiful.

I think witches would have birds, like in HDM. I see Granny with a goose; Nanny with a robin-red-breast and Magrat with a corn crake. Agnes has a nightingale and Tiffany a curlew.

Through the piping lines of the Unseen University, there are bees.

No one knows where they come from. No one knows what they eat or where they keep their hive; they buzz softly but in a way that it sounds like many mechanical things clicking together, and when they rise all at once, it sounds like the beginning of a voice.

And always, they cluster near the parts of Hex; the tubing that runs through the University like a hermit crab in a shell just right for it, and a careful eye notes that their buzzing matches perfectly to Hex’s eternal noise; the clicking of the clockwork, the tapping of the keys, the steps of the ants.

The students swear they have never seen the bees more than a short distance away from Hex, and always around the senior wizards or the High Energy facility, and they move around Ponder Stibbons like a particularly noisy halo so he looks like an apiary angel.

Mr Stibbons tells the truth when he says there were never any bees until they turned on Hex. And one day, in the moving of the machinery, there arose but just one single perfect bee.

No one knows when the swarm came. Just like no one knows when Hex became something more than the sum of parts.

But when the bees fly and Hex is working, buzz and machinery a duet, it sounds like the voice of a soul.

The undead still have souls, which is why they’re allowed in the Watch, and by extension integrated into human-dominated society. Reg Shoe’s parrot is a transparent, repetitive thing with a small tinny voice, like the echo of a kitten at the bottom of a tin bath. But that’s just Reg Shoe.

Of course dwarves have souls; strange ones, but theologically undeniable. There have always been mutters that dwarves steal the souls, or that the strangely-silent animals are actually trained pets; but they do seem satisfyingly dwarvish, the sombre badgers and mole rats and burrowing owls, and they generally don’t cause trouble, and one must trade after all.

But Cheery’s pink fairy armadillo is instantly recognizable as a daemon, and a nicely dwarvish one to human sensibilities, a very small burrowing animal. Though to the dwarves, the fussy little thing with its delicate pink armor and pristine white fur is a slightly embarrassing thing to have on public display. Not only that, but the daemon speaks in public – allowing his high, breathy, querulous voice to be commonly read as male, implying that Cheery is by extension female.

At her interview for the position at the Watch, she gathers her courage in both hands and introduces the daemon to Vimes as

Roz’querkluftertz

, her heart hammering at the wrongness and intimacy of it. (Vimes helpfully points out the location of the spittoon) and she says “No, it’s, er, a kind of pink, er, rock,” and Vimes’s face goes all hollow and he sort of stares off into the distance, and she can practically hear the rusty machinery of his brain trying to process this new information on How Not To Be A Racist Prick To The New Diversity Hire into something he can make sense of.

”Is it,” Vimes says finally, the last mental gear clunking into place, where it appears to stick.

“It’s a very pretty sort of rock,” Cheery says humbly, trying to help. “But quite rare and I’m sure it hasn’t come up in conversation before.”

”Not like gold,” Vimes says sourly.

”Probably not,” Cheery says carefully, trying to avoid the pitfall trap that is talking about gold among dwarves.

Her daemon himself pipes up suddenly in his high, scholarly little voice, and Vimes looks at him in surprise: “Roz’querkluftertz is not considered valuable to dwarves at all, in the sense that gold is inherently valuable; it is,” – and here Roz’querkluftertz gives his fussy little academic cough, “considered hr’azdkha, which is to say, valuable because of its work or properties; namely, in the case of this mineral, being useful to alchemical research, as well as being beautiful, in the homely comfortable sort of way that is rarely reflected in songs. And, of course, pink.”

”Never heard a dwarf’s daemon talk before,” Vimes’s terrier says. Her voice is beautiful, deep and hoarse and husky, like a smoke-broken bar singer.

”We’re a bit odd,” Cheery says.

”You’ll do,” the terrier says.

”I’ve always liked, er, pink,” says Vimes, pitching himself courageously along the conversation, and Cheery’s heart sort of goes out to him a bit, because you can see that somewhere behind that casually hurtful sneer, in that dark and ill-kempt machine of his brain, the man is trying to be Good with a capital G, and most people don’t care that much.

”Me too,” she says, her hand curling around the little tube of Violently Pink Like The Blood Of Thine Enemies lipstick she’d bought in the market that morning. “I’ve always liked pink.”

Someone just liked this post from a million years ago and it reminded me that “Roz’querkluftertz” was actually some kind of Pune, or Play On Words, and I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS, so I had to back-google it,

and it’s a mashup of the German word Rosenquarz (rose quartz) and the Saxon term “querkluftertz” (cross-vein-ore).

THAT’S NOT EVEN FUNNY ELODIE WHY DO YOU MAKE SO MUCH WORK FOR YOURSELF???

It IS funny, and witty, and clever. If the peculiar titles and quotations of Mr Nutt’s Überwaldean philosophy texts (in ”Unseen Academicals”) are anything to go by, that sort of mashup would have been right up Terry’s street (Rührwörtergasse 7a).

This whole sequence is pleasing in many different ways.

If I may:

Trolls, it is commonly believed, don’t have daemons. It’s one of the salient points in the ongoing dwarves vs. dwarves debate, not to mention one of the reasons why humans generally find trolls to be rather unsettling.

Among the trolls, however, it is well known that your soul is something you make, or something given to you, or something you keep on you. It might be your grandfather’s club or a favorite boulder but it’s something that’s intrinsically yours.

Detritus’ soul is a special helmet which cools his brain down so that he can think more quickly in the Ankh-Morpork heat. It was made for him by a dwarf, which many trolls feel isn’t really *proper* for a troll’s soul, but no one is going to fight him on it. Cuddy’s daemon had put extra special care into helping creating it before they vanished into a cloud of golden Dust.

Rincewind’s daemon is an opossum – a strange little creature that doesn’t mesh well with the rest of the world, and would rather run or play dead than fight, but is mean as hell when backed into a corner.

Archancellor Ridcully’s daemon is a bull moose. Wizards are the sort of fellows who tend to have same-gender daemons as often as they have different-gender daemons. (Because women and wizard magic just don’t naturally mix, of course.) The moose is huge, gets in the way pretty much constantly, and really can’t be brought down by anything short of the world ending.

Ponder Stibbons has a crow, one of those dangerously intelligent corvids that know how to use tools and can count. She has a sharp wit and often says what Ponder is thinking but would never actually say aloud. It’s a rather annoying habit, as far as Ponder is concerned.

No one knows what the Librarian’s daemon was before he became ape-shaped, or if she changed at all between then and now. She is, of course, a female orangutan who only says “Ook!” and becomes just as angry as the Librarian when someone uses the m-word.

Young Sam’s daemon has a habit of mimicking his father’s daemon, except quite less scruffy. Sybil has sometimes walked into the nursery and caught all four of them sound asleep, Young Sam on Vimes’s chest and a big-pawed, fluffy golden retriever puppy curled up with the mud-colored mutt.

Do you think twins – such as Elladan and Elrohir – would have the same daemon? Or would they be polar opposites?

Hey Nonnie! I am really happy that people are enjoying my ideas on this! 

ooooh, um so bear in mind that I am not a twin. 

From what I understand of daemons, they are an animal personification of a person’s soul, yeah? And even if you are genetically identical to someone else, you are not the same person. You don’t have the same soul. 

So nah, I don’t think twins would have the same daemons. Some twins might have similar daemons? But not the same.

Dunno about polar opposites either… depends on the pair of twins in question! In Elladan and Elrohir’s case, they do have many similarities, and so the manifestations of their souls would have some things in common. Here’s my idea for them. I’ve given them both seabirds, though there are some interesting differences as well as similarities. Size, for one!

Elladan – 

Arctic Tern (long-lived, naturally protected from parasites and predators, incredibly long-distance migrator for years at a time, FANTASTICALLY protective of nest and young, to the point of aggression)

Elrohir – Great Shearwater (possibly the longest-lived bird in the world, AMAZING eyesight, long migrator, echoing night-calls, ‘shearing’ flight pattern like a knife carving through the air, can dive down from above quite far into the ocean, RIDIC BRAVE)

(here, here, here, herehere and here are the rest of these!)

What about deamons from the Baggins/Took family?

heeeeeeeee awww this is such a nice idea!

Welp, I’ve done Bilbo’s – mongoose. OOooh such a mongoose. A clever fuzzy lil burrowing cutie (that will take a chunk out of you if you back it into a corner) and also Pippin’s – Marmot

Bungo – WOMBAT :DDD

Belladonna – Hare (this lady wanted to run, to explore the world…!)

Gerontius “the Old Took” – Tortoise (what else, lmao)

Bullroarer Took – Boar

Lotho “Pimple” Sackville-Baggins – Cuckoo

Lobelia Sackville-Baggins – Seagull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE!

Bonus Fatty Bolger – donkey

(here, here, herehere and here are the rest of these!)

after seeing all the posts about daemon headcanons, I am so tempted to write a fic about it (like very tempted, I spent all day yesterday daydreaming about what to write) but I think the only think stopping me is that I don’t think I’ll be good enough?

OH MY GOD NONNIE NEVER LET THAT FEELING STOP YOU FROM DOING OR BEGINNING OR TRYING ANYTHING

EVER

EVERRRRRR

you are good enough. Promise, cross my heart, cross my eyes and my fingers and my legs. 

You can already be assured that I will read it, and I will explode with excitement over every. single. word.

I’ve gotta ask after seeing all your other posts about daemon headcanons: do you have any ideas for the elves? Like Thranduil? Is his giant elk his daemon? Arwen? Elrond? Celebrimbor? Galadriel? Celeborn? (and basically anyone and everyone you have ideas for?)

I am so happy you’re liking these, thank you! 

OOOOH my first reaction was to agree that yeah, Thranduil’s daemon would be his Elk… but it keeps popping into my mind that perhaps he is one of those rare people whose daemon takes humanoid form? And then a notion struck me that perhaps… Galion…?

Galadriel – a jewelled dragonfly, iridescent as white opal

Arwen – white-naped crane

Elrond – emerald tree boa

Celebrimbor – CROW CROW CROW CROW CROW SMARTEST OF BURDS

Celeborn – Crested goshawk

Glorfindel – PEACOCK HEHEHEH

Haldir – Ocellated lizard

Luthien Tinuviel – Luna Moth

Beren – GOLDEN EAGLE 😀

Elu Thingol – cougar

Feanor – Silvery gibbon (he gets a PRIMATE, goddamn genius that he was… but one that is hella territorial and defensive)

Gollum – naked mole rat

Denethor – chameleon

Saruman – Ladybird Mimic Spider

Radagast – HEDGEHOG

Okay, I can’t think of anyone else right at this moment, so if there’s anyone in particular I may have missed that you really wanted to see, just prod me and I will put on my thinking cap!

(here, here, here and here are the rest of these!)

Do you have any daemon headcanons for the older Durin extended family? Like, some of Fris and Thrain’s generation? Thror? Also. Fundin and Groin’s daemon’s get into noisy arguments. (It’s a running joke that Fundin and Dweris both have owls – spectacled and great horned respectively)

ooooh yeah, sure!

Thror – Staffordshire Bull Terrier (STAFFIESSSSS ❤ )

Hrera – Parrot (possibly rainbow lorikeet, possibly black cockatoo? NOT SURE HERE YET)

Thrain – German Shepherd/Alsatian

Fris – Swan

Groin – Dingo

Haban – Magpie

Nain – Leonberger

Daeris – Hyena 

Bomris – Jerboa

Kifur – Meerkat

Bomfur – Cricket

Genna – 

Chipmunk

Alris – 

Puffin

Zhori – Cliff swallow

Vili – Fennec fox

BONUS NARVI – Honeybee

(here, here and here are the rest of these!)

I know that you’ve talked about your ideas for daemon aus for the Company/fellowship, but do you have ideas for your oc’s and/or some of the other or minor characters in the hobbit/lotr? Like, Hrera might have a nice tastefully-coloured parrot. Very pretty, very smart, very people-oriented.

Oh cripes, lmaoooo – yeah

Um, it will not surprise anyone to discover that Baris’ daemon would totally be a lyrebird.

Hrera with a parrot is PERFECT, oh my sldjhgfsjh. The parrot would preen everyone in sight. It would also be quite noisy… and a flock parrot too, so perhaps a rainbow lorikeet? We have thousands of them around here, they’re beautiful… and BOSSY.

Lessee. Jeri? Would probably have a pony for a daemon, tbh. I’d say horse, but that’s WAY too large for a Dwarf!

Barur – Brown bear. Omnivorous, protective, big and clever? BEAR.

Genild – badger

Bani – Woodpecker

Beri – bobcat

(why do I like the idea of Bomfris’ daemon being Tuac???)

Thorin Stonehelm – tigress

Laerophen – a white-and-grey rat! (HIM A CLEVER CLOGS)

Laindawar – Elephant (YES HIS DAEMON WOULD BE BIGGER THAN HIM. ALSO VERY PROTECTIVE WITH A MEMORY LIKE WHOA. BWAAHAHAHAHA)

Gimizh – raccoon!!!! LITTLE SNEAK-THIEF, LITTLE BRINGER OF MAYHEM

Mizim – Red Bird-of-paradise

Gimris – snake, a nice pretty-patterned one

Thira – Beaver

Wee Thorin – Polar bear

Balinith – ring-tailed lemur, clever lil hands

Frerinith – marsupial possum!

Selga – Himalayan tahr

Merilin – NIGHTINGALE (what else lmao)

Orla – Cassowary (BE WARNED)


Okay, that’s all I can think of right now! If I’ve missed a character you really wanted to see, I’m very sorry, just let me know 🙂

Here’s the ones I did before, too!