Goin off of your post about Dain having flashbacks of Nain’s death – how hard was it for all of Thror’s relatives who saw him die deal with that in the Halls? I don’t know if Frerin saw, but he and Thror probably got their issues over comparatively quickly since they died at almost the same time. But Thrain and Thorin … a whole other kettle of fish.

Ah! Well, this is actually another point of difference between the books and the films!

Book: Thror is not killed in battle. He and his good friend Nar had been trying to sneak into Khazad-dum. Azog caught him, decapitated him, and threw his head out of the Doors of Durin, with the name ‘AZOG’ carved into the forehead.

Nar brings the news of Thror’s death back to Thrain, who musters the Dwarven armies to avenge Thror’s death. This begins the 9-year War of the Orcs and Dwarves, which culminates in the Battle of Azanulbizar in which Dain Ironfoot saw his father killed and then slew Azog in turn.

Movie: Thror tries to retake Moria with an army, but dies and is decapitated at the Battle of Azanulbizar. Thorin chops off Azog’s arm, but Azog survives. Dain is presumably running late? In other words, Dain’s part in the battle of Azanulbizar was handed over to Thorin in the films.

As I have said before, I am quite meticulously sticking to the book timeline. All proposed workarounds tend to make my head hurt, to be frank (it’s enough work as it is without having to re-jig all the dates to fit) ! And so, I like being able to reference the year of an event or the age of a character. 

I do incorporate a hell of a lot of the movie characterisation etc, but when it comes to the big events stuff like this, I am very grateful for the incredible wealth of information in the book universe! So, to the question, though: Thrain and Thorin never saw Thror killed, because I am following the book timeline with this one. This is not to say that it would not have been devastating. Thror was the “father of their people”, their leader and father and grandfather and King. To know he died in such a cruel and vicious way, his body desecrated, would have been a massive and debilitating and painful blow. I mean, they began a war because of it, and fully half the Dwarves that took part died. But they would have been spared that sight, at least.

(Nar, on the other hand…)

So angsty moment … Dain is now in the Halls … does he have flashbacks for the first little while spending time with his dad about how his dad died?

It takes him by surprise on occasion.

It’s an awkward and slow process, relearning how to be someone’s son, someone’s child. Dain doesn’t always remember that he has that support, and he often forges ahead alone, independent and stubborn, as he has done for over two hundred years. 

It takes a whispered word in his ear from Fris, of all people, for Dain to look behind him and see the love and hesitant hope in his parents’ eyes.

Daeris loves to braid his hair, so unlike her own. She hums as she sits him down and brushes it and brushes it until it gleams like polished copper, and then she carefully braids it back into his accustomed style. When he bends to kiss her whiskery cheek in thanks, he is struck by the memory of her blood splashed across her face, pooling upon skin that already turned waxy and loose in death.

He swallows down the sudden surge of bile and squeezes her hands. “Thank you, Amad,” he says, and tries to wipe the image from his mind.

Nain walks upon winged feet these days, nearly exploding from pride for his mighty son. He often just beams at Dain, his face softening and creasing in astonishment and joy, and when Dain rolls his eyes Nain will shrug and laugh and say that it is his right to be a foolish old man. Besides, is Dain any better when it comes to his own boy?

That’s different, Dain will sniff, and Nain will chuckle. It is a little stilted, a little forced. Their affection does not come naturally, not yet – but it feels as though one day it could.

It is when Nain turns to one side to talk to someone, or when he flops down into a chair – hells, even when he stretches – that the terrible memory resurfaces. That angle of his head. It is only the angle of his head, Dain tells himself sternly, and washes his face and stares into his own eyes in the mirror. They look bruised.

His head had wrenched to the side, lolling and loose, the angle obscene and stomach-twisting to see. A grotesque parody, a broken doll. The sturdy Iron Hills mail he wore protected him from being decapitated… but it could not stop his spine from snapping beneath Azog’s powerful hands. 

The angle of his head…

Dain splashes more water onto his face and grips the edge of the water-basin tightly. You are no longer that scared and angry child, he tells himself, and tries to force his knees to cooperate. He feels light-headed. You are safe now, protected from all evil, and Mahal himself watches over us. You are safe. Nain is safe. Daeris is safe. The last scion of Azog’s line is dead, and your family is safe.

And he steps back out to smile and laugh with his father, to let his mother brush and bind his hair, and he forges ahead. Independent as always, enduring what he must. In time, the flashbacks will subside. Not yet. Not yet. There is always the angle of Nain’s head.

But Dain hopes so, nevertheless. It feels as though one day they could.

Loss That Burns – applepieisworthit – The Hobbit – All Media Types, The Hobbit – J. R. R. Tolkien, The Hobbit (Jackson movies) [Archive of Our Own]

flamesburnonthemountainside:

I wrote a sad thing… (very) short modern au of a house fire inspired by Thorin’s line "You turned away from the suffering of my people and the inferno that destroyed us" in DoS

determamfidd for you! I borrowed Frís and Hrera for this story 😀 and for liketotessecret who has written many sad things, so in retaliation, here you go!

Also tagging docmanda justatouchofgoldsickness renioferebor and dragonmad and the rest of the Sansukh cast.

AUGH OH MY GOD MY HEART OHHHH DISSSSS

BATTLEPIG YOU ARE MORE EVIL THAN I COULD EVER HOPE TO BE

TEACH ME YOUR WAYS

Loss That Burns – applepieisworthit – The Hobbit – All Media Types, The Hobbit – J. R. R. Tolkien, The Hobbit (Jackson movies) [Archive of Our Own]

I KNOW I KNOW NONNIE

I KNOWWWWWW

here is the text on Tolkien Gateway – warning, ORI, OIN AND BALIN FEELS.

ALSO FRAR, LONI AND NALI FEELS.

MORIAAAAA GAH, the angst that never stops angsting. *cries into her beard* 

In answer to your question: I think Dori would read it. I do. It has been twenty-five years, no word, not a sign. He would read it simply to find out what happened at long last – and then he would forever wish that he had not.

Alex Johnson Memorial Fund by Stephanie Lawrence – GoFundMe

chimchimcharoo:

I’m sharing this on here in hopes of helping a family who lost someone way too soon. Alex was my coworker, and while we weren’t close, he was still someone I interacted and enjoyed working with. He was the loudest, gayest, funniest person I’ve ever had the chance to work with, and his presence is missed. He was found dead in his apartment on Tuesday night after he did a no call no show at work, and was found by his neighbor, and then later his friends and coworkers. It’s being investigated as a homicide. He was 22, turning 23 on the 24th of this month. His family is not that well off, and have asked that instead of people buying flowers, for them to donate towards the funeral service, which is to take place on the 26th. If you can donate it is very much appreciated, sharing is also incredibly helpful.

Please and thank you so much, from not just me, but his family as well.

Alex Johnson Memorial Fund by Stephanie Lawrence – GoFundMe

Gimizh is so precious. Like. If he didn’t have a loving family I would take him in as my own. Also you made me upset about Faramir again and I am DISTRESSED

(*whispers* I am actually very proud of all the Dwarves of Erebor and the way they deal with Gimizh’s shenanigans, tbh – if he was subject to extreme strictness or tight boundaries, he could easily become a very resentful and angry ‘problem’ child, given to lashing out due to frustration. But they understand that he’s at least 110% energy, 130% curiosity and 150% imagination, and they run with that. They give him space and tasks and limits that he can live within, and deal with it when he stuffs up -*puts on teacher hat* because Gimizh is pretty much a textbook kinaesthetic learner, he learns by doing, not reading or hearing, so yeah sorry I will stop whispering about my Gimizh-feels now)

AUGH YES YES FARAMIR, I AM SORRY NONNIE. As I was coming to the end of that scene it struck me just how much Faramir just lost, what he has to come to terms with. He hasn’t even had a moment to grieve for Boromir yet, ffs. And Denethor tried to kill him. And now Denethor is also dead, and in such a terrible way… it’s just. Yeah, Pippin and Merry absolutely moved on my behalf when they climbed over and gave that poor boy a hug. He really needs it.