loveforkili:

I think it would be really cool if the fans managed to gather money and make a special gift to the actors with these individual signet rings if Thorin and his Company next year at the HobbitCon4. (The rings will be shipped to the actors who won’t be present) Please tell me what you think about it!!

What exactly is the ‘dark name’ thing?

Okay, here is the inspiration, from Appendix F of LOTR:

But in the Third Age close friendship still was found in many places between Men and Dwarves; and it was according to the nature of the Dwarves that, travelling and labouring and trading about the lands, as they did after the destruction of their ancient mansions, they should use the languages of men among whom they dwelt. Yet in secret (a secret which unlike the Elves, they did not willingly unlock, even to their friends) they used their own strange tongue, changed little by the years; for it had become a tongue of lore rather than a cradle-speech, and they tended it and guarded it as a treasure of the past. Few of other race have succeeded in learning it. In this history it appears only in such place-names as Gimli revealed to his companions; and in the battle-cry which he uttered in the siege of the Hornburg. That at least was not secret, and had been heard on many a field since the world was young. “Baruk ’!Khazâd! Khazâd ai-mênu!” – ‘Axes of the Dwarves! The Dwarves are upon you!” Gimli’s own name, however, and the names of all his kin, are of Northern (Mannish) origin. Their own secret and ‘inner’ names, their true names, the Dwarves have never revealed to any one of alien race. Not even on their tombs do they inscribe them.

So, I am sure I have mentioned that I have no self-restraint a love of extreme detail! I went with this concept to the absolute limit. If we assume that Mahal makes each Dwarf personally and with utter love, I thought that perhaps instead of Dwarves naming their children twice – once with an ‘outer’ name, and once with a ‘secret and sacred’ name, it wasn’t beyond the realms of possibility that Mahal himself had given the Dwarf their sacred name. Mahal would have written it into their very bones, sent it swirling through their blood.

I went a bit further. That sacred name would be the whole and soul of a Dwarf – the very essence of their best self. It would be inextricably linked to a Dwarf’s very personality. (i.e. Gimli’s dark-name is Sansûkhâl [One who sees with perfect/pure sight], which refers to many things. His bluntness, his role in defeating darkness, his overcoming institutionalised racism, his perception of Elves, Dwarves and Men, his caring and comforting nature.)

Aaaaaand a bit further yet. If they are sacred names, then I reasoned that it was likely that Dwarves only shared such names with close kin. Also – they would customarily be shared only under stone, because Khuzdul itself is not to be used in outer lands amongst other peoples. Therefore – “Deep name” or “dark-name.”

And so, the ‘outer name’ (i.e. Gimli) would also be known as a ‘sky-name’ – to be used in the open air.

All this dark names business is really hurting a lot *gathers up shards of my heart* it just seems to me to be such a charged thing, filled with implications and fraught with danger too… on one hand it’s dazzling, intimate and pure, yet on the other it’s surely quite a source of contention and doubt? for every person who feels blessed about being told, there’s another who /hasn’t/ been told–and all that that means. even if one may love another truly, it must still hurt, disappoint, devastate.

Hmmmm. I think it IS fraught, yeah. Any time you have the whole ‘secret names’ thing, it’s going to be fraught. *hugs the Nonnie* Sorry.

But I don’t think it’s meant to evoke jealousy. I think the whole concept would be surrounded by such a culture of respect that to be given one is to be given a HUGE gift. If your partner received your child’s dark-name, for instance, you would celebrate that. That means that your child found perfect trust with them. That means that your partner has been given a wonderful and dangerous gift. And it in no way takes away from the magic and danger of your own name, or implies that your child might not ever share their name with you.

To be envious of someone receiving such a name would mean that you value less your own, or those that have shared theirs with you. I’m probably not explaining it well, idk, but I feel that to be envious of a special moment between people you love would be very frowned upon, generally. That isn’t to say that there wouldn’t be some who get upset. But it would be viewed as mean-spirited, covetous and petty, or worse, controlling.

The physically affectionate dwarves are one of my absolute favourite things the movies gave us, and I love how much it features in Sansukh. Bifur especially makes me laugh, just casually flinging his arms around people or patting them on the head. Open affection, yay!

Thank you, Nonnie! And – heck yeah Bifur! I ADORE BIFUR SO MUUUUUUCH. IDK, I just feel like he would be the cuddliest Dwarf ever. It’s the flip side to his berserker mode. Open, honest affection FTW!

These things about Nori are KILLING ME OH GOD He’s one of my very favorites, I love Nori so much (in fact I am a giant Nwalin shipper so I keep having to resolutely remind myself while reading that that’s just-not gonna happen in this fic. But you made me love Orla and the little ones so much, I don’t even mind. Still sometimes I wish they could interact just once or – be friends or sth but NO Dwalin LIVES FOREVER) anyway, ‘NORI!!’ is what i basically wanted to express&thx for Sansukh, it’s rad!

Awww, thank you Nonnie! I’m thrilled you’re enjoying it – and hey, Nori IS safe now. He’ll learn to trust eventually. Ori is there, Ori will help him. Ri Brothers stick together. 

(Yeah, I have quite a few people making ლ(ಠ_ಠლ) faces at me for not including particular ships. Sorry! But I am very glad you love Orla and the sprogs!)

I love love love all the hugs you have written into your works bc 1) hugs are awesome and 2) I think dwarves give really good hugs, cause, despite being short, they also have these massive chests and arms and hands and legit any dwarf you come across is gonna be an A++ hugger. Also, this might meant that legolas and bilbo sit on their respective dwarves laps a lot. Gimli says legolas has a bony butt tho

OH GOSH THIS IS ADORABLE. Yes, A++ huggers!

Yeah, when watching the films one of my very first reactions was ‘holy crap Dwarves are really tactile’. They always seem to be touching in some way, as friends or comrades, butting their shoulders together, slapping backs, etc. So I had to write that in. 

Legolas is going to have to deal with that, actually. Elves don’t appear to be NEARLY so touchy-feely! The conversation between besties Legolas and Tauriel has them standing three metres apart! 

And it’s an interesting character note: many relationships have to deal with one partner being a lot more physically demonstrable than the other, and learning to compromise and understand the other and be respectful of their space. 🙂

Gigolas movie headcanon: Legolas asks Gimli for advice on what to do for Tauriel on the anniversary of Kili’s death because she’s clearly very broken up about it and wants to be near to him again but never will and it makes Legolas sad to see his fellow ranger that way, so Gimli suggests maybe making her an oath stone with Kili’s name on it in dwarven. Neither are aware that Kili has been toiling in the halls of Mandos and made a necklace he would have given Tauriel if he could have.

bofurs-wife:

leeeeeeeeeegooooooooolaaaaaaaaas:

Someone should write fanfic of this!!

yo determamfidd this totally sounds like something outta Sansukh! 😉

I was wondering what would happen if Frerinith ever met Laepheon? Would Laepheron be like “PRECIOUS BBY CAN I TAKE HIM HOME??” Or would he be more like “OH NO ITS AN INFANT WHAT DO???”

Hahahaha, I answered an ask about our favourite Elven introvert + babies over here

Meeting Frerinith specifically, though. Hmm. I think Laerophen would be dumbstruck and awed by every move the tiny (so tiny!!) little one makes, his every word and breath. Look at how perfect those small hands are! How remarkable, each tiny eyelash, those wide and trusting eyes! Is there anything as musical as a child’s laughter? A whole new person, a light only beginning… and oh, he’s… he’s skinned his knee, um. What to do, what to – I know, I shall mop it with my sleeve. 

My sleeve is not sufficient. 

He cries now. Perhaps I should pick him up and comfort him, I have seen others do so… ah, he leaks. That is unpleasant. And is he… chewing upon my hair?

Oh. He leaks from several places. 

I think I should perhaps put him down. And find his parents.

rohnoc:

Inspired by Sansukh and Dain Ironfoot’s battle piggies, some heraldic scribbles for the line of Durin

The basic shield of the kings of Erebor would have a crown above, with a black chevron representing the mountain under an arc of 7 stars. Beyond this base, each king would have personal elements.

Dain’s Arms have a hammer crossed with his red axe under the mountain, with a raven in flight above, a chevronel under the black to represent his lordship of the Iron Hills, and has, most importantly, boar supporters.

Notes for the Arms of Thror and Thorin under the cut.

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*dies and is transported to heaven*

YOU ARE A GEM BEYOND COMPARE OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING. And I ADORE your thoughts on them!!! Gosh, thank you!