Hey dets! Quick question – in reference to the previous anon’s q about Gimli and learning Sindarian. I haven’t been able to find any resources suggesting that the language of the Noldor was banned, only on the Ban laid on them by the Valar irt returning to Valinor. Was wondering if you could direct me to any you have?

Ahhh sure! It appears that I have been somewhat misled by the wording used in the Silm here! Sorry for any confusion!

Noldorin is in fact the SAME THING as EXILIC QUENYAN (i.e. the Quenya spoken by the Noldor in exile.) So it is in fact a Noldorin dialect of Quenya that was banned by Elu Thingol!

The actual quote in the Silm is this: “Never again in my ears shall be heard the tongue of those who slew my kin in Alqualondë! Nor in all my realm shall it be openly spoken, while my power endures. All the Sindar shall hear my command that they shall neither speak with the tongue of the Noldor nor answer to it. And all such as use it shall be held slayers of kin and betrayers of kin unrepentant.”

your fave is problematic: thingol

greenekangaroo:

songsoftheirdeeds:

  • ditches his bros for his gf without warning anyone
  • his people hunted Dwarves for sport and eventually were like ‘whoopsie they’re sentient’ 
  • banned Quenya (languages don’t kinslay people; people kinslay people)
  • keeps awful cursed swords in his armory what
  • playing against him in basketball is hopelessly unfair
  • started yelling racial insults at a bunch of armed angry people in a property dispute with him
  • why did he even want a silmaril though

All of this is 100% truuueee.

I mean I’m still on Thingol’s side when it comes to the Feanorians but that’s more because they were clearly colonizing with intent to rule and that was soommme bullshit. 

But Thingol. 

Why you gotta get racist during property disputes? 

Like. 

You might have lived. Maybe.