How do you come up with all your lovely names for elves and dwarves? I always struggle for names for originals!

Hey Nonnie!

Oh god, this is a bugbear for anybody I think. I made up some naming conventions for Dwarves, which I have linked here

Tolkien mined the Völuspá saga for his Dwarf names… and there are actually a whole bunch of names he DIDN’T USE, so go to town! 

For the race of Men, I have used names similar in rhythm and vowel quality to the ones Tolkien already made up. It’s worth remembering that every name has a culture attached to it! A Rohirric name is different to a Gondorian one! (e.g. Folcwine, Gamling vs Faramir, Beregond etc).

There’s plenty of Elven Name generators, if you wanted to cheat a bit! Here’s one!

I also made up a WHOLE LIST OF SINDARIN NAMES for possible Mirkwood Elves, using the Sindarin-English dictionary project Hisweloke. Here they are reproduced for you, to get some sort of idea of how I did it!

Laerophen – Tree Song
Laindawar – Free Forest
Taembeng – Long Bow
Ecthelben – spear point
Magol – Sword
Haedirn – Remote watcher
Hathol – Blade
Lagorind – swift thought
Merilin – nightingale
Mithrad – wandering path
Talathar – flat land of grass
Cúdan – Bow-wright
Meneglas – thousand leaves
Síriel – daughter of the river 

When it comes to the Dwarven dark-names, I spent ages and AGES AND AAAGES wrestling with Neo-Khuzdul to find something that works (and that I can somewhat pronounce!!!)

the-anchorless-moon:

sometimesophie:

argumate:

erai-crabantaure:

Okay, so if you’re only familiar with the movies, then you don’t know this, but in the Lord of the Rings books when Boromir dies, Legolas and Aragorn sing a song at his funeral (no Gimli doesn’t sing). Now when I read the books, I fell in love with this song, because it’s a beautiful poem, and you should go read it. 

Well I was thinking about it again today, and one thing that still impresses me, is that canonically, Aragorn and Legolas come up with this on the spot. There doesn’t appear to be any moment in which they sit down and write this, they just sing. And it can’t be a standard funeral song because it specifically references Boromir and their journey

Now the real reason the poem is so nice is because Tolkien was a poet and loved to fit as much poetry as he logically and illogically could into his works, and naturally he had plenty of time to revise this death-song and made it beautiful, but I came up with an in-text explanation as well.

So I’ve decided that clearly this is a well practiced skill for elves and people raised by elves. They obviously spend evenings sitting in halls coming up with spontaneous poetry which they then recite to the crowds. I am adamantly convinced this happens. Seriously, read up on Tolkien’s elves and tell me I’m being unrealistic.

But to the point, thinking about this, I decided that naturally most of the poetry we see from the elves is beautiful and flowing and elegant because that’s the style they’re familiar with. But if introduced to other styles of poetry, they likely could do quite well

So what I’m saying is, elves would be really good at freestyle rapping

damn, I was yelling Elvish rap battles! before I got halfway through the post

YES. ALL OF THIS. 

I only have two tiny things to contribute to this post: 

  1. If you are like me and love the Lament for Boromir, you absolutely need to go listen to this version by @everywindintheriver. She does a lot of setting Tolkien poetry to music, but this remains one of my absolute favorites; it’s quite beautiful and haunting. 
  2. Elvish rap battles are 100% canon. In Silmarillion version of “The Tale of Beren and Luthien,” there’s a bit where Sauron captures Beren and Finrod Felagund while they’re on a quest, and “Felagund strove with Sauron in songs of power” or, in other words, they literally had a contest where they sang poetry at each other and tried to destroy each other with their words, so. Elvish rap battles definitely definitely happened. 

@determamfidd

HEY THIS IS AWESOME… and i also have a thing to add!

The reason Gimli doesn’t sing? Is because they left him the East wind. So, Aragorn first sings of the West wind, then Legolas sings of the South wind, and then Aragorn sings of the North wind, all asking of news of Boromir. 

But to the East is Mordor, and you can imagine that Mordor is pretty damned pleased about the recent adjustment in Boromir’s breathing conditions.

So Gimli, tactfully, doesn’t sing. 

‘You left the East Wind to me,’ said Gimli, ‘but I will say
naught of it.’

‘That is as it should be,’ said Aragorn. ‘In Minas Tirith
they endure the East Wind, but they do not ask it for tidings.’

– The Departure of Boromir, The Two Towers.

From this, I personally surmise two things. 

a. Book-Aragorn is a tremendous attention-hog. WHAT A SHOWPONY.

b. it’s not uncommon or unusual for Dwarves to be warrior-bards, no less than Elves. 

So I’m forever salty about how short all the elves hair is in the movies like no that’s not long it’s like two years of hair growth And for immortal beings that is so LAME… like I’m talking we need big full length hair waist long minimum ok elves like long hair and by god they’ll get long hair

OOOH YES, I haven’t seen much written about this! That’s a really, really good point, Nonnie. The only two elves in the films with hair that even approaches the stated length are Tauriel and Galadriel. Huh. 

Elrond, Legolas, Celeborn, Lindir, Haldir, Thrandy, even Arwen – ALL the rest are extremely short-haired, for elves. No bowstrings are gonna come out of THOSE heads! 

Perhaps it’s a fashion trend of the Third Age? Perhaps it’s the Elven equivalent of a mohawk dyed pink – Middle-Earth punk rockers? 

idk, but I feel and understand your annoyance on this one, Nonnie! *hugs*  i am a ball of festering resentment over certain movie things as well, after all 🙂

Gimli visiting Eryn Lasgalen and like, the jokey elves noticing he says ‘aye’ q lot. They walk up to him and say “Legolas has pretty eyes, doesn’t he?” And since Gimli notices they aren’t out to give him a cold shoulder he goes (1/2)

“Aye, he certainly does.” The elves laugh, the peanut gallery cracks up and Gimli continues to half heartedly complain about those annoying punny (aha, get it?) Elves. (2/2)

AHHHH YES I LOVE, more cheeky silly irreverent elves, with their barrel songs and their tralalally pls and thank

what if they notice that nowadays Legolas says ‘aye’ on occasion, and so try to make him say it as often as possible, lmao 

In the same vein as the oropher anon, do you have any head canons about Thranduil before he was king?

Ooooh crumbs. Yes? Thank you for asking, Nonnie 🙂

Okay, so we know that Thranduil was present when Doriath fell, and that he fled with his father to Lindon and thence to the Greenwood.

So, he saw that massacre when he was still young. 

I feel that young!Thranduil would have been full of a red-hot rage, a fire. He would have been passionate about the wrongs he saw that were done to his people, and to the world. 

Then he meets Aelir, and she brings out the gentleness and curiosity in him. Her influence calms him, makes him breathe without tasting the injustice of it all at the back of his mouth. They are given two beautiful children, and Thranduil’s grief and anger are briefly allayed by the joy in his life.

Thranduil names the first child ‘Free Forest’, or Laindawar. A wish for the future, a prayer for things to come, a promise to this little soul. He will be free. They will stay free.

Aelir names the second ‘Tree Song’, or Laerophen. Her ears were forever full of their music, her body swaying with their branches, half-wild dryadlike thing that she is. 

So. They’re happy. But it doesn’t last.

Then: Dagorlad. Another massacre, one full of monsters and horror and loss. In Thranduil’s case, the loss is deep and personal. He loses his father, and the grief and the rage inside him begin to crystallise.

The darkness builds, the Second Age turns into the Third. Aelir grows worried: the song of the trees is sickening, twisting itself into new and gruesome sounds. It twists her inside as it does so.

They are given a last, late gift long after their other children: a Green Leaf, Legolas, a small bright dancing spark amidst the gathering gloom. Aelir names him, her child, so small and hopeful, a green shoot in a forest of dark and blackened things. 

Thranduil is grim. He fights against the encroaching darkness with an ever-more-stony countenance. His determination is clad in ice. His home will not die, not again. No more massacres of his people. Not again. Laindawar is of his mind, and fights at his side. Laerophen is more timid, and shrinks away to surround himself with books of the past.

They fight and fight as the years roll on, bringing the rotting trees back to health, rooting out and destroying the nests of spiders, singing away the mists that cling like slime to the southern forests. The years roll on, and Thranduil misses the signs of sickness in his wild woodland wife.

Until he can’t miss it, not anymore. She has always been close to the trees, nearly part-tree herself. And now she is sickening and failing for want of sunlight, and the clashing songs of the forest are an agony to her. She must go.

Thranduil fights this, as he has fought everything else. They try everything that can be done, to no avail. The healing has begun too late: not even the arts of Elrond can halt Aelir’s illness. The only hope is to go to the West. 

She does. Weeping, but her chin held high. She will see them again, she breathes into the hair of her family. Her voice is feeble, and she must be carried onto the ship.

Watching, Thranduil holds onto his youngest child, his green leaf, and his heart turns to diamond inside him. 

This world will take no more from him. 

What are your Oropher head canons?

I don’t really have that many, tbh Nonnie.

I think he was a lot warmer in his demeanour than our chilly diamond Thranduil. We know he was impatient – heck, that’s why he died at Dagorlad, through impatience. He didn’t wait for the signal.

I also think he had a real open dislike and resentment for the Noldor, heh. After the fall of Doriath, we know that the Sindar didn’t want to stay with Gil-galad and the rest of that lot, and instead they left the safety of Lindon and moved east. I suspect Oropher was all ‘fuck you, i’m out. Gonna be a king far far away from you crazy tragic murdering nutbags and your crazy world-destroying dramas.’

Basically, my mental picture is of an Elf who doesn’t have the icy demeanour, long-hidden wraths and griefs, and incredible ancient endurance of Thranduil. Instead, my Oropher was a quick-speaking, quick-thinking, witty and personable sort of Elf, with an almost-Manlike lack of patience, and TONS of Sindar pride. I suspect he was very well-liked, a very popular Elf. I mean, the Silvan Elves made him King, after all.

I bet he was a great dad.

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For @determamfidd‘s amazing and massive fanfic Sansûkh, which is a blessing to this fandom and everyone should read it. It’s written mostly from Thorin’s POV, the character development is amazingly done and not just focused on one character and I love them all.

I’M GIBBERING HERE, THIS IS SO SO ADORABLE AHHH

look at his wee dubious face, he is so not convinced about this new weird elf lmaaaao I LOVE HIS LIL CLOTHES, the neckerchief and the shoulder-seams and the front-detail and the high-waisted soft belt AHHH he looks so like a wee Dwarf should! His lovely big Dwarfy nose, his hair and the little fuzz on his jawline and oh my good god he’s precious I want to give him the biggest hug, I bet he is the huggiest lil boy ever, you’ve drawn him so cozy and cuddly OH HELP ME MAHAL 

lskdghflajhs HE’S ADORABLE AND GORGEOUS AND I LOVE HIM SO SO VERY MUCH. thank you, thank you SO much, you incredible artist you!