Tag: galadriel

So I finally read the LOTR books — my clearest memory of stuff being different from the movie is how much the book turned me into a certified member of the Protect Galadriel Squad T_T The whole thing in Lothlorien… “I will remain Galadriel”…. she is so saaaaad, why. It hurts me. Now I am sharing the hurt with you, because I am a horrible person. Anyway, want to join my Squad?

*clutches GPS hat, badge, backpack and member certificate* WHERE DO WE MEET

tolkien-in-beleriand:

silverhairedelf:

celeborn-of-doriath:

silverhairedelf:

tolkien-in-beleriand:

Oh my God OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

You know I never actually read The Lord of the Rings Epilogue because I thought I couldn’t deal with it and you know what?

I WAS FUCKING RIGHT!

Have a look at this part and you will understand why

‘But the Elves are sailing away still, aren’t they, and soon there’ll be none, will there, dad?’ said Rose; ‘and then all will be just places, and very nice, but, but…’

‘But what, Rosie-lass?’

‘But not like in stories.’

‘Well, it would be so if they all was to sail,’ said Sam. ‘But I am told they aren’t sailing any more. The Ring has left the Havens, and those that made up their mind to stay when Master Elrond left are staying. And so there’ll be Elves still for many and many a day.’

‘Still I think it was very sad when Master Elrond left Rivendell and the Lady left Lórien,’ said Elanor. ‘What happened to Celeborn? Is he very sad?’

‘I expect so, dear. Elves are sad; and that’s what makes them so beautiful, and why we can’t see much of them. He lives in his own land as he always has done,’ said Sam. ‘Lórien is his land, and he loves trees.’

‘No one else in the world hasn’t got a Mallorn like we have, have they?’ said Merry. ‘Only us and Lord Keleborn.’

‘So I believe,’ said Sam. Secretly it was one of the greatest prides of his life. ‘Well, Keleborn lives among the Trees, and he is happy in his Elvish way, I don’t doubt. They can afford to wait, Elves can. His time is not come yet. The Lady came to his land and now she is gone; and he has the land still. When he tires of it he can leave it. So with Legolas, he came with his people and they live in the land across the River, Ithilien, if you can say that, and they’ve made it very lovely, according to Mr. Pippin. But he’ll go to Sea one day, I don’t doubt. But not while Gimli’s still alive.’

Is he very sad? 

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KEEP LIVING AFTER THIS???

HELP ME. I DID NOT NEED THIS PAIN. This family is killing me. Whenever Celeborn is ready, Celebrían and Galadriel will be waiting for him.
@celeborn-of-doriath, Are you very sad? 

OMG YOU GUYS @silverhairedelf @tolkien-in-beleriand can we please just talk about how tragic and sad ALL of the Celeborn parts are? Can we talk about this until I am drunk off all this glorious, magical, delicious angst??

I love that part from the epilogue. It’s so sad but wonderful. And the prologue is just as sad. 

“It is said that Celeborn went to dwell there after the departure of Galadriel; but there is no record of the day when at last he sought the Grey Havens, and with him went the last living memory of the Elder Days in Middle-earth.”

FOTR prologue, p. 15, Houghton Mifflin 1987 edition

So he goes but takes the last memory of the elves with him!?!? JUST MURDER MY HEART ALREADY. but are we done with Celeborn angst yet? Aw hell no y’all.

“Drink, Lord of the Galadhrim! And let not your heart be sad, though night must follow noon, and already our evening draweth nigh.” – Galadriel to Celeborn, FOTR, Farewell to Lórien, p. 365, Houghton Mifflin 1987 edition

HOW IS IT SO ROMANTIC AND PAINFUL AT THE SAME TIME?!?!

“Kinsman, farewell! May your doom be other than mine, and your treasure remain with you to the end!” – Celeborn to Aragorn, ROTK, Many Partings, p. 260, Houghton Mifflin 1987 edition

I’ve heard some people say they think in the above Celeborn is referencing Lórien, which doesn’t make sense for a lot of reasons, but this debate is easily solved by reading Tolkien’s letters, where he directly states Celeborn is speaking about Galadriel here as his ‘treasure’.

AND ARE YOU CRYING YET??? Celeborn has some super sad lines that I think get overlooked, or that people just don’t realize are there. So tragic. I love him. Help. Help me. It hurts.

Since my heart is breaking into thousands of pieces, I thought I would also contribute some sad lines that Celeborn says. Let me remind you of Celeborn’s prediction of the end of Middle Earth.

“‘Now is the time,’ [Celeborn] said, ‘when those who wish to continue the Quest must harden their hearts and leave this land. Those who no longer wish to go forward may remain here, for a while. But whether they stay or go, none can be sure of peace. For we are come now to the edge of doom. Here those who wish to await the oncoming of the hour till either the ways of the world lie open again, or we summon them to the last need of Lórien. Then they may return to their own lands, or else go to the long home of those that fall in battle.’”
-Celeborn to The Company
(The Fellowship of the Ring 358)

Excuse me, Celeborn? None can be sure of peace? We are come now to the edge of doom? Then they may return to their own lands, or else go to the long home of those that fall in battle? CAN YOU STAB ME JUST ONE MORE TIME? I don’t think you’ve hurt me enough yet.

I have yet another example of sad Celeborn (and Galadriel) lines.

“’It is sad that we should meet only thus at the ending. For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air. I do not think we shall meet again’ [said Treebeard].
And Celeborn said: ‘I do not know, Eldest.’ But Galadriel said: ‘Not in Middle-earth, nor until the lands that lie under the wave are lifted up again. Then in the willow-meads of Tasarinan we may meet in the Spring. Farewell!’”
-Treebeard, Celeborn, and Galadriel in conversation
(The Return of the King 959)

WHY?
I also would like to touch upon the example you brought up about Celeborn taking the last living memory of the Elves with him when he sails. Can you imagine what he must have felt? He probably held on so long in Middle Earth BECAUSE he knew that when he goes, ALL THE ELVES GO WITH HIM. How depressing is that? Celeborn carried the memory of his people. That is no light weight to carry. He probably had to come to terms with letting that memory slip away from Middle Earth before he could sail. He had to be content in some weird way that the memory of the Elves would be no more once he left. POOR CELEBORN. MY HEART IS ACHING, EVERYONE.

@celeborn-of-doriath and @tolkien-in-beleriand, this post has become one long post of very real Celeborn feelings, AND I LOVE IT. It’s heart-breaking, BUT I LOVE IT.

**Quoted material from the Complete Classic Harper Collins 1994 edition

I am going to murder both of you for making me remember

 “It is said that Celeborn went to dwell there after the departure of Galadriel; but there is no record of the day when at last he sought the Grey Havens, and with him went the last living memory of the Elder Days in Middle-earth.”

and

“’It is sad that we should meet only thus at the ending. For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air. I do not think we shall meet again’ [said Treebeard].

And Celeborn said: ‘I do not know, Eldest.’ But Galadriel said: ‘Not in Middle-earth, nor until the lands that lie under the wave are lifted up again. Then in the willow-meads of Tasarinan we may meet in the Spring. Farewell!’”
-Treebeard, Celeborn, and Galadriel in conversation

I HAVE SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT THESE TWO BITS SPECIFICALLY!

Now I’ll just get back to my tears.

poplitealqueen:

emmahay:

I’m on a Hobbit rewatch right now. I did like the Dol Guldur scenes with the White Council – for all the other faults of the films – because it was unexpected and Galadriel was given more opportunity to show just how scary she can be. 

Galadriel has a very interesting history, and there was a time when she didn’t solely use magic. This is an armour concept for her, back in the First Age days, based on a sea serpent scales/feathers mix. I have yet to brave the Silmarillion, but there are great posts around on Tumblr that go into her backstory. ETA: later correction with more detail, better proportions. 

@determamfidd

YAAAS

So I was reading/listening to Midwinter and I was kind of wondering if you had any general ideas on what the elvish dance would look like and the kind of music it would be to? I really want to try and recreate it to the best of my ability!

Hey Nonnie – I hope you liked Midwinter 🙂

I went for a little expedition through my blog just then, and do you know? I had totally forgotten that I had written this! It’s a general description of what I imagine Elvish dancing to look like, and the themes of the most popular holiday dances!

Dang, my memory is slipping, hehehhe.

Music-wise, I feel that the Elves would be more inclined towards collaborative music that ebbs and flows and never quite reaches a “formal” climactic moment as is common in Western classical tradition… I don’t think there’d be huge orchestras but instead small quartets, trios, chamber groups. A small group of virtuosos who know each other’s talents and thoughts so intimately that they are able to grow the music as they play it. Indonesian gamelan springs to mind, as does Bugaku (Gagaku) or Indian classical music. Music that takes its inspiration from the sounds of nature, too: the calls of birds and forest creatures, the long slow growth of trees, the sound of waves crashing upon a sandy shore…

I don’t think they’d be into short music – even folk/history songs (such as the Lay of Luthien) go on FOREVER AND EVER oh god so many stanzas, and so perhaps instrumental music is the same: slowly building, forming and increasing in intricacy, undercurrents of passion that never pierce that sense of continuity and movement… before it breaks apart, melding again in a new configuration…

Vocal music is obviously a massive part of their lives: Legolas never stops singing, and neither does Galadriel! So there’d be different songs for different clans of elf, I guess… some would be formal and some would be ‘folk’… the word ‘Lay’ suggests a bardic tradition, too.

Tra La La La Lally is an outlier and should not have been counted? IDK

We know that Maglor played harp. He also composed the lament ‘Noldolantë’… I have a feeling that a lot of the Noldorin songs are laments, tbh.

Sindar songs are likely ‘I’ll get you for that, you dirty rat’ lmao

I think that instruments like zithers and kotos would be popular: both need a lot of patience and delicacy to learn, and are incredibly evocative and beautiful. Too, we saw that harpist and flautist in Rivendell! So we can assume that those are instruments that they use commonly 🙂

IDK, that’s just some random thoughts thrown together. I hope it’s helpful, Nonnie! I am SO excited to see what you create, it is sure to be amazing! *waves pompoms*