Tag: gatekeeping

The book of The Hobbit: Never mentions giant earthworms (wtf, is this ‘Dune’ all of a sudden, which franchise are we in)
The book of The Hobbit: Radagast never seen. Only mentioned in passing.
The book of The Hobbit: Legolas who?
The book of The Hobbit: Bolg, not Azog (bc Dain ALREADY KILLED HIM AT AZANULBIZAR)
The book of The Hobbit: Thorin squished under his company at Bag End
The book of The Hobbit: Saruman who?
The book of The Hobbit: Thorin is a windy pompous arse (and is also the oldest)
The book of The Hobbit: TRA LA LA LALLY, COME BACK TO THE VALLEY
The book of The Hobbit: extremely useless, moaning, miserable, mopey Bilbo, until he reaches Gollum’s cave
The book of the Hobbit: Alfrid who? Also the Master doesn’t die until after the BOTFA.
The book of the Hobbit: “Thag you very buch.”
The book of The Hobbit: LONGbeards. LONG. Beards. (often dyed. See: Dwalin)
The films of The Hobbit: All of the above AND SO MUCH MORE
Gatekeeping misogynist idiot ‘purists’: *crickets chirping*
The films of The Hobbit: Oh hey we’re going to add a woma-
Gatekeeping misogynist idiot ‘purists’: IT’S A MARY SUE, AHH MY EYES, GET THE ICKY COOTIES OFF OH MY PRECIOUS PRECIOUS CHILDHOOD, HOW DARE YOU THINK YOU COULD EVER BE A PART OF THE THING THAT IS FOR THE STRAIGHT WHITE CIS MENS ALONE, EW EW EW, I FEEL SICK SHE TOUCHED IT, I BELIEVE THAT THE VALUES OF TOLKIEN’S TIME SHOULD BE SLAVISHLY ADHERED TO IN THE PRESENT DAY DESPITE HOW MANY PEOPLE IT HURTS, COOTIES COOTIES AND GIRL GERMS EVERYWHERE, YOU CAN’T HAVE 1 BADASS MAGICAL CHARACTER TO LOOK UP TO EVEN THOUGH I HAVE 100+ VERSIONS OF MAGICAL SUPERHERO CHOSEN ONE TO CHOOSE FROM, HOW DARE YOU WANT JUST ONE SINGLE SOLITARY CHARACTER DON’T YOU KNOW YOUR PLACE, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED INTO MY SPECIAL MEN-ONLY STORY *continues ranting hysterically until the Fourth Age*

100% DONE

dain-mothafocka:

arianaofimladris:

arafinwean:

tolkienfish:

I get that people are looking for more fantasy with more diversity. I AM SORRY but Middle Earth is another world with their own races and they have their own developed history with racial problems with Elves, Dwarves, Men, Hobbits, the Dunadiain, Wizards, and Orcs. The universe itself was creating in Tolkien’s back in 

1937. There were much different standards in that time. You wont find racial diverse Hobbits in most cases because Hobbits are their own race and have their own commings and goings. I’m sorry. It’s how Tolkien created it. Middle Earth itself is it’s whole other world that is not our own. 

If you want to know more about the races in middle earth READ THE SILMARILLION!  

You’re right, I’m 100% done too.

Done with you.

Because I dunno if you actually bothered to read The Silmarillion but like, NO WHERE IN THAT BOOK DOES IT DESCRIBE THE CHARACTERS SKIN COLOR. We could have elves of different races because gasp, there are different races of elves!!! Who is to say the Vanyar aren’t black after all.

And honestly there are brown hobbits (the harfoots) or did you fucking forgetting forget and where blinded by your racism. Fuck.

Also just because there were different standards in that time doesn’t mean that something wasn’t fucking racist jesus.

Dear God, I was really hoping to avoid this kind of discussion in my beloved fandom…

Vanyar, for what I know, were fair skinned and there were blondes among them. As for people, there were those who then betrayed Feanorians, and they were described as having darker skin.

But seriously – do we have to put real world’s racism into fictional world that had its own problems (AND, as it was pointed out, its own ways of racism)? What is wrong with accepting the book the way it is, even if it contains mostly sort of white characters? Or are you telling me that there is something wrong in feeling strong bond with character that has different skin color or different sex? Most of the characters I love are men, while I’m a woman, and I never felt it’s wrong. 

As for Middle-Earth itself, I can imagine people with darker skn, those from East. But I cannot imagine black elves. And it’s not me being racist, it’s mostly looking where Tolkien got his inspirations. His elves come from celtic and nordic folklor, and seriously, how many Celts 1550 or so years ago were black/eastern? Tolkien got his inspirations from certain cultures, so it is quite understandable that the readers subconsciously (and I think correctly) see similarities between those two. If you read about Vikings, or when you read northen mythology, do you expect the gods to be black?

So much for not finidng hate in my fandom.

Look guys, I found another one.

*breathes in and out very slowly*

Right. 

I have already covered my feelings on this turd of an argument. Enjoy.

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(and it bears adding, too; Please realise that, by not recognising that you yourself are blindly headcanoning the whiteness of all characters, you are perpetuating the invisibility of white privilege. White is also a race. You have a race. You are also a member of a race. Congrats, race is not something that “does not apply” to you bc you are white. 

Yes, as much as I love him and his work, Tolkien failed people of colour *70 years ago*. Well done pointing that out. Do you actually intend to perpetuate that failure? 

You are ascribing a race and a corresponding skin colour to fictional people. Why can’t others do likewise? Why can’t you share?

The fact that you cannot imagine a black elf does not make you ‘correct’. It only displays the limitations of your imagination.)