one day Gimizh gets to go on an adventure outside the mountain with his uncle Gimli. He sees a tree. It is so big. He must climb it. ‘Gimizh no!’ Gimli says. ‘Gimizh yes!’ he cries, already attached to the tree trunk like a limpet. ‘I will conquer this foe!’ ‘your mother is going to kill me’ Gimli says.

Gimris: You left my son where.

Gimli: He’s perfectly safe!

Gimris: Gimli.

Gimli: Well, you know the beech-trees on the southern slopes, the ones with the nice wide climbing branches… that are just a liiiiittle too slight to bear a fully-grown dwarf’s weight…?

Gimris: you orc-breathed SIMPLETON, YOU CAN’T LEAVE A CHILD UP A TREE!!!

Gimli: (backing away, eyes wide and hands raised) But it’s his kingdom now, he’s proud as can be, he did it all by him…! Gimris, ach… no, wait… I’m…!

Gimris: (dangerously) I’d run, if I were you, nadad. Because if I can catch you, I AM GOING TO PULL EVERY HAIR FROM YOUR CHIN.

Gimli: (runs for it)

{Meanwhile, up a tree}

Gimizh: An’ I’m the boss now, so you do as I say. King Gimizh of the tree!

Random Squirrel: (throws a nut at him)

how do you think dwarven aging works? like–are they babies for the same amount of time as men and then age slower like elves do? do they reach physical maturity before they come of age? I’m trying to wrap my head around age equivalents and it’s not exactly working. especially when I try to think of Dain at Azanulbizar.

Hey Nonnie!

Hoo boy, I have written a LOT on this in the past: here’s some of my ramblings, here’s some more, and some more, and some more, and some more. There’s nothing really definitive in canon, and what there is is a little contradictory.

Basically, it boils down to this:

– We know that around 40-45, a Dwarf would be physically grown – or close. (Dain was 32 at Azanulbizar, and Frerin was 48…)

– However, Gimli is too young to join the Quest for Erebor, and he was 62.

– This suggests that they are bodily mature far earlier than they come of age?

– Emotional maturation generally continues for a longer period of time than physical maturation, at least in humans.

– Kili is 77 at the time of the Quest, and he is the youngest.

– With all this taken into account, I headcanon that Dwarves ‘come of age’ at 70 years old. They’d grow quite quickly – Wee Thorin is 37, from memory, and he is nearly as tall as Gimli… though he is the equivalent of 12 years old emotionally and intellectually.

(believe me, I teach 12 year olds WAY taller than me.)

Then they’d enjoy a long adulthood, very resistant to change and age and disease (Mahal made ‘em hardy, after all!)… before they crumbled comparatively swiftly at the end of their lifespan.

So Groin lived until Gimli was in his 40s … Imagine Groin with his grandbabies. Cuddles and walks and 100% proudest grandpa. Groin takes Gimli out so Gimris can nap uninterrupted, and takes both kids out so Gloin and Mizim can have some quiet time. Gimli is sure that his grandpa is the nicest, bestest grandpa ever. Gimris loves his cookies (so does Dwalin, who comes over often to snarf them).

I KNOOOOOOWWWWWW – I love that Gimli actually got to know one of his grandparents, goodness knows it would have been a rather rare event in that generation!

Awwwww Gimli and Gimris and adoring sweetheart grampy Groin, AWWWW

At some point after Vili dies, Thorin finds a perfumer who sells the cheap (but nice) lemongrass pomade that Vili used. He buys a bunch and secretes it in Dis’ room.Dis finds it and 100% cries. She puts some on her pillow so it smells a little of Vili. Thorin makes sure she never runs out. Post-Botfa, the various Durin cousins continue this tradition. Gimli is responsible for sneaking the bottle into her rooms.

Oh jeez, and scent is such a superhighway to memories, and nnngh

ooohhhh I love it, it’s perfect – augh and also thank you Nonnie!

So Dis has lots of bad days on the many birthdays and death-days of her many relatives. Does she prefer to be alone on these times, or do her family and friends come in to distract her? (Dain totally would come and tell stories with her – with beer). Dwalin and Balin might come and sit with her for a while, enjoying some pipes.

Oh yes, Nonnie, she would have company. Though Dis often believes herself to be alone, she is by no means forgotten. 

Dori is always an unobtrusive presence, pouring tea and shifting the plate of biscuits closer to her hand. He knows, far better than most, how she feels. 

(She does something similar for him, on certain days.)

Dwalin plies her with far too much to drink, and they laugh and complain long into the night. He ends up snoring on her hearth, and she falls asleep in her grandmother’s armchair, and they both have terrible heads in the morning… but it’s worth it.

Dain brings beer and stories, definitely. He hums quietly under his breath, to make the place less empty. He’s quieter than usual, on those days… but now and then he brings something new, discovered in the moldering archives or in the tunnels. A letter written by her father. Her mother’s harp (desperately needing re-stringing). Her grandfather’s favourite worry-stone, the runes nearly worn smooth. The record of Frerin’s birth, and the list of songs and ceremonies that greeted his presentation.

That always hurts. But it’s a welcome hurt, and a dear one. She will cry when he brings her these things… but then he often does too, and that’s why. That’s why.

Balin doesn’t need to say a damn word. Balin can just look at her with those old, knowing eyes, and she can feel it sizzle in the air between them.

Mizim and Gloin invite her to their rooms, full of arguing and fondness and love. There, Dis will knead dough for the next day’s bread and bicker with Gloin, as Mizim fires off the occasional random snarky comment, and Gimli and Gimris squabble like Dwarflings of twenty. Then when the meal is ready, Gloin will clear his throat and raise a toast to the departed, and Dis will not answer, only hold her glass high. 

Later, Gimli will rest his head upon her knee, and she will comb out his hair with slow, soft motions. Her fingers linger in that mass of blood red, soft and thick, as coarse as Fili’s ever was. Not Kili’s, though. Kili’s was smoother. 

(She knows he doesn’t care to have his hair fussed with. She knows that not even his mother is permitted this.)

I loved your answer to that other nonnie, I’d read the heck out of a story like that. Although they might have still gone through Moria if Dis got outvoted (Gimli wanted to see his family/friends and Frodo is the one who makes the final decision) but regardless it’s awesome! Also, I get to finally make lembas bread on Monday, so I’m really excited. I want to try to make your Broadbeam stew, but most of my family wouldn’t try it because it’s new.

Hmmm, true true, they may yet have gone anyway. Dis would have HATED it. Y’know, even beyond its current state and beyond the death of Balin’s colony. It would have been even MORE horrendous.

OH WOW – that’s amazing! Let me know how lembas bread making goes!! I haven’t tried it myself, I am so curious!

(aksgf;askdfhas dangit I STILL HAVEN’T MADE THAT FAB RECIPE – and it’s the middle of summer here, WAY too hot for a hearty dumpling soup! I will have to make it in winter, gotta write a note in my diary to remind myself! Ahhh, I hope you get a chance as well, Nonnie!

For anyone interested in those recipes, they’re at the Writings page on my blog, or you can have a look here:

Broadbeam Dumpling Soup – by whiteteawithhoney

(possible alternatives/ingredient replacements for Broadbeam Dumpling Soup – by kailthia)

Broadbeam Dumpling Soup (Bilbo’s version) – by morvidra)

Little Gimli who went through a very annoying “let’s hit things with other things to see what happens” phase. Curious little Gimli who was constantly entertained by the stream of interesting noises, smells, breakages, etc that occurred. Especially notable was Gimli’s favorite metal spoon, which he liked to bang against everything – including metal pots, Gloin’s nose, Oin’s fragile metal bottles, and open containers of tiny things.

oh GOD THAT PHASE, you can see their little minds going ‘eeeee noises big bangy crashy noises!!!’

‘hmmm, what happens when I BASH IT AS HARD AS I CAN WITH THIS OTHER THING

ON CONCRETE

OR TILES

OR THIS HANDY DANDY SAUCEPAN’

SO. LOUD.

(meanwhile Mummy and Daddy have to shout to be heard on the phone, heh.)