HEADCANONPALOOZA PART 14!!!!

(tbh? I have a feeling that Frerinith isn’t going to care all that much about having an Elf of his own. And that particular one keeps smooshing faces with Gimli, anyway. Gimizh’s Elf is far far easier to boss around.)

I NEED SPICY SOUP COMPETITIONS BETWEEN DAIN AND GENILD YESTERDAY. YESTERDAY.

Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9, Part 10, Part 11, Part 12, Part 13

Angsty bit … After Azanulbizar, Thrain and Groin have six kids to mind between them. Trying to keep them all fed and clothed is a challenge, especially while remembering all the dead folks.

oh fuck of course they would, oh my god OF COURSE

Thorin, Balin, Dwalin, Oin, Gloin and Dis

owwwwwwww

now I need the Angsty Ongoing Adventures of Thrain and Groin, both of whom are mourning the loss of family and spouse and damn-near EVERYONE, even as they try to care for six of the most stubborn, traumatised, determined and badass teens & kids everrrr

(Groin would shoot off his mouth when worried, as though arguing with Fundin like he always does… and Thrain ofc cannot respond the way his brother did. It falls flat, they both fall silent… 

Groin saying ‘Haban’ thoughtlessly, without thinking, and

Thrain freezes in place, Groin’s throat trying to choke the next words, after … 

Thrain sighing over the kids as they discuss what to do about them, this time, Dwalin’s so young, he’s so angry, and wee Gloin doesn’t quite understand, and he absently says, ‘I’ll see what Da thinks…’ or perhaps ‘Thorin, Frerin and Dis…’ before he remembers that it isn’t anymore, there’s no Da, it’s not Thorin-Frerin-and-Dis… 

and oh GOD the silence. The awful silence that follows.)

So Groin lived until Gimli was in his 40s … Imagine Groin with his grandbabies. Cuddles and walks and 100% proudest grandpa. Groin takes Gimli out so Gimris can nap uninterrupted, and takes both kids out so Gloin and Mizim can have some quiet time. Gimli is sure that his grandpa is the nicest, bestest grandpa ever. Gimris loves his cookies (so does Dwalin, who comes over often to snarf them).

I KNOOOOOOWWWWWW – I love that Gimli actually got to know one of his grandparents, goodness knows it would have been a rather rare event in that generation!

Awwwww Gimli and Gimris and adoring sweetheart grampy Groin, AWWWW

I think I just found my favorite line in Sansûkh.. “You’re as much help as a fart in the wind.” From Gróin to Fundin in chapter 36. Their bickering gives me life, and makes Óin and Balin’s grouching more understandable. I’m totally going to use that line, though. You rock my socks off Dets!! Stay awesome!!

Fave line anon again. I’ve changed my mind. Dain telling Thorin, “I’m going to haunt his bloody socks off, is what I’m going to do,” is my new favorite line!! I laughed my bloody sock off, which was sorely needed after sobbing my heart out. I absolutely adore the way you wrote Dain and his relationship with Thorin. You are simply perfection, and don’t ever forget it.

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God. Thank you, Nonnie. I’m not having an awesome time rn, and your wonderfully-timed messages were like hot chocolate for the soul. 

*hugs* Thank you. Can’t tell you how much it means.

I’m having feels about all the fave characters repurposing stuff after the Mountain’s reclaimed. Wee Thorin sleeps in Balin’s old crib, which is freshly reupholstered with a war-pig pattern. Oin uses his dad’s apothecary measuring set, with the one piece that Groin had in his pocket on the way out replaced. Dis gives the Stonehelm and Bomfris the royal baby jewelry, all Teary-eyed over the tiny pieces. Gloin uses Haban’s abacus.

THIS IS BOTH BEAUTIFUL AND SAD, NONNIE

Oin decided he wanted to be a doctor very early on – just like his dad! Helping people, doing good! He would use his dolls as guinea pigs, wrapping them in bandages and stuff. Gloin and Dwalin were also dragged into duty as “patients.” Groin once caught Oin trying to give Dwalin an enema because he was complaining of constipation.

YIIIIIKES

That would NOT have been a good scene to walk in upon

yiiiiikes yikes yikes yikes um YIKES. 

Hello! I’ve been wondering, what’s your opinion as to why Groin and Fundin’s names are so dissimilar? Dwarf siblings seem to have theme names so often and all.

flukeoffate:

determamfidd:

OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY HAVE A POSSIBLE ANSWER TO THIS

Groin seems to be a variant of a traditional Line of Durin name!!! Check out the family tree:

There’s been a King Oin and a King Gloin in the past. These names are tremendously repetitive and derivative, until you reach Borin. Then you have a bit of a departure in that branch of the family, and Fundin’s name seems to be derived in part from Farin’s.

Balin and Dwalin’s names also seem to be derived in part from Farin and Fundin.

But Groin’s seems to hark back to those old kings? Enough so that he is able to name his own sons after them, and they appear to be derivatives of his name, anyway.

So, there’s ONE possibility!

btw, this is totally disregarding Tolkien’s original source for many of these names, the Völuspá (the names Thorin, Thror, Thrain, Dain, Frar, Loni, Nar, Nain, Gloin, Dwalin, Balin, Bombur, Bifur, Bofur, Gandalf, Dori, Ori and Durin all came from this edda!)

I’m wondering tho: Some people have told me that the proper pronunciation of the -oin names sound more like O-win in the traditional writings, so if you take that into account, Fundin and Gro-win don’t sound as dissimilar.

Oh heck, yes – I forgot pronunciation! Totally agree!

Hello! I’ve been wondering, what’s your opinion as to why Groin and Fundin’s names are so dissimilar? Dwarf siblings seem to have theme names so often and all.

OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY HAVE A POSSIBLE ANSWER TO THIS

Groin seems to be a variant of a traditional Line of Durin name!!! Check out the family tree:

There’s been a King Oin and a King Gloin in the past. These names are tremendously repetitive and derivative, until you reach Borin. Then you have a bit of a departure in that branch of the family, and Fundin’s name seems to be derived in part from Farin’s.

Balin and Dwalin’s names also seem to be derived in part from Farin and Fundin.

But Groin’s seems to hark back to those old kings? Enough so that he is able to name his own sons after them, and they appear to be derivatives of his name, anyway.

So, there’s ONE possibility!

btw, this is totally disregarding Tolkien’s original source for many of these names, the Völuspá (the names Thorin, Thror, Thrain, Dain, Frar, Loni, Nar, Nain, Gloin, Dwalin, Balin, Bombur, Bifur, Bofur, Gandalf, Dori, Ori and Durin all came from this edda!)

Tiny infant and toddler Gloin whose life goal seemed to be to tug on and interact with EVERYTHING he could. Hair. Noses. Clothes. He once grabbed Groin’s nose ring and wouldn’t let go for 20 minutes. Haban laughed a lot.

AWWW. Repeating ‘Nohshe!’ in a loud and cheery voice as he yanked on it, I’ll bet. (The Dwarfling loves to point at face-parts this way. She says, “nohshe! Mouw! Eye! Haaaaair! Eeeeeyah!” and I die from the cuteness of it.)

lmao bby Gloin would have been a HELL of a toddler. Proper howling meltdowns in public places, snot and tears everywhere, arching back and throwing himself onto the floor. He has such a mighty temper, it would have taken a little Dwarf a little while to control it!