- ditches his bros for his gf without warning anyone
- his people hunted Dwarves for sport and eventually were like ‘whoopsie they’re sentient’
- banned Quenya (languages don’t kinslay people; people kinslay people)
- keeps awful cursed swords in his armory what
- playing against him in basketball is hopelessly unfair
- started yelling racial insults at a bunch of armed angry people in a property dispute with him
- why did he even want a silmaril though
All of this is 100% truuueee.
I mean I’m still on Thingol’s side when it comes to the Feanorians but that’s more because they were clearly colonizing with intent to rule and that was soommme bullshit.
But Thingol.
Why you gotta get racist during property disputes?
Like.
You might have lived. Maybe.
Tag: silmarillion
I postulate that Glorfindel canon includes:
He is around 9 feet tall. That’s how they rocked back in theday.
He is built under that tunic. None of that slight elvish shit.
He is a riot. Like, no decorum at all, he will slurp his
wine LOUDLY if that’s what it takes to liven up the company at the table.He likes to hang out with Men from…
In what order would you recommend someone who has only seen the movies and read the hobbit to read the rest of Tolkiens books? I’ve tried to read the Lotr trilogy two times, first when I was ten then at twenty, and gave up after finishing felkowship both times because it grew too heavy. Now I really feel like trying Silmarillion, but I’m afraid it will feel just as slow or that I won’t get a lot since I haven’t finished Lotr. I’m pretty curious about the children of Hurin as well.
Uhhh, I honestly don’t have an opinion on which book to read in what order. I read The Hobbit first simply because it was being read in my class at school, and then I devoured the rest. I can’t even remember which order it was in.
Tolkien’s style isn’t what we’re used to these days, and it can sometimes be very dense and impenetrable. But you can do it! The payoff is unbelievable.
Silmarillion is a very different kettle of fish to the trilogy. It is even more impenetrable in certain places, being an interconnected early history of Middle-Earth, posthumously pieced together after JRR’s death. Thankfully, some people out there have been AMAZING and put together reading guides!
Tips for reading the Silmarillion by teamedain
The Silmarillion Reader’s Guide (available as ibook or pdf)
Have fun, and good luck!
Thanks for the mention, but I think I should mention we didn’t actual write that post – it’s one of askmiddlearth’s.
To your anon: I wouldn’t worry about not understanding The Silmarillion because you’ve not read LotR. They’re set in completely different time periods, with completely different geography, and (almost) entirely new characters. (Galadriel and Elrond appear in both, but having seen the films, you’d already be familiar with them.)
But determamfidd’s quite right to say The Silmarillion is more impenetrable – it’s certainly shorter than LotR, but much, much denser. There are literally hundreds of characters, places, and names to keep track of, although the guides linked above really are a great help when it comes to understanding what’s going on.
On the other hand, The Children of Húrin does function as a self-contained story, with far fewer characters and happening over a much shorter period of time. It’s not what I’d call a fun read (Túrin and I have never really got on) but I think it’d do quite well as an introduction to the First Age.
Ahhh, thank you so much for the clarification and for the information!
To the anon re: Tolkien book fatigue, there are ways around this. Personally I recommend listening to the audiobook version of the LOTR trilogy. It’s much more immersive. If you prefer e-books, Kindle is great. For the app on ipads and iphones, if you have the e-book and the audiobook you can switch back and forth seamlessly with this thing called whispersync. 1/2
Ahaaaaaa, fabulous, thank you so much! (And yes, I love the audiobook version of LOTR: it is simply superb).
i didn’t get another message, so if there was a second part, I’m afraid it didn’t get through *shakes fist at tumblr*
In what order would you recommend someone who has only seen the movies and read the hobbit to read the rest of Tolkiens books? I’ve tried to read the Lotr trilogy two times, first when I was ten then at twenty, and gave up after finishing felkowship both times because it grew too heavy. Now I really feel like trying Silmarillion, but I’m afraid it will feel just as slow or that I won’t get a lot since I haven’t finished Lotr. I’m pretty curious about the children of Hurin as well.
Uhhh, I honestly don’t have an opinion on which book to read in what order. I read The Hobbit first simply because it was being read in my class at school, and then I devoured the rest. I can’t even remember which order it was in.
Tolkien’s style isn’t what we’re used to these days, and it can sometimes be very dense and impenetrable. But you can do it! The payoff is unbelievable.
Silmarillion is a very different kettle of fish to the trilogy. It is even more impenetrable in certain places, being an interconnected early history of Middle-Earth, posthumously pieced together after JRR’s death. Thankfully, some people out there have been AMAZING and put together reading guides!
Tips for reading the Silmarillion by teamedain
The Silmarillion Reader’s Guide (available as ibook or pdf)
Have fun, and good luck!
Alright so if you don’t find pride and arrogance a flaw or disagree that certain characters are greedy you are disagreeing with the backbone of the morality in the Silmarillion. Sorry but this is one fandom where morality is so entrenched that to disagree with Tolkien is to miss the point of the story itself.
Oh no! I’ve written over 300,000 words about the Silmarillion and it turns out all of my interpretations are totally worthless, because there’s only one correct reading and anon knows what it is! Gosh, what a waste of two years of my life.
”to disagree with Tolkien is to miss the point of the story itself” — I have some questions. Is it missing the point of the story to disagree with Tolkien about anything? Like, can I disagree that women are the intellectual inferiors of men and still understand the point of the story? Can I disagree that it’s okay to refer to orcs as ‘degraded and repulsive… Mongol-types’ and still understand the point of the story? Can I ship characters and still understand the point of the story, or is believing gay people are a natural part of the world totally incompatible with True Understanding of Tolkien?
But it gets worse! What if I think the Valar were wrong to bring the Elves to Aman? Then I’m certainly missing the point of the story, right? Except Tolkien himself thought that at one point. In some places he writes that the Noldor were right to leave; in other places he writes that they were wrong. In some places he writes that Galadriel was blameless in departing; in some he writes that she rightly fell under the Doom. In the Book of Lost Tales Manwë forbids the Noldor from leaving or talking about their desire to leave; in other works Tolkien tells us that the Valar definitely wouldn’t do that. It’s starting to look like Tolkien doesn’t understand the point of his own story, poor sod.
Lúthien and Huan going to kick Sauron’s ass (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:・ﾟ✧
BUT TELL ME I’M WRONG.
Dwarves.
Somebody made a text post about “what if hobbits were the firstborn of Iluvatar” and how much less corruptible they are than elves aND I SWEAR I SAVED THE POST BUT NOW I CAN’T FIND IT, anyway this was supposed to be a response to it. u_u SOMEBODY FIND ME THAT POST.
You think your family’s weird? My mother’s a bird. My father’s a star. MY DAUGHTER IS MARRYING MY FOSTER SON.
Elrond, to just about anybody, the Lord of the Rings (via incorrecttolkienquotes)
Aw Yiss 