If dwarves are born with their dark names embedded in them, specially given to them by Mahal, is it therefore possible for nobody else to ever know the kherumel of a dwarf (for whatever reason maybe they had no one they wanted to tell it to)? I.e., unless and until a dwarf tells others, nobody knows? are parents/family able to force a kid to reveal it?

In my little headspace, it would be the grossest abuse to force a child to give you their dark-name. The most appalling, the most horrible abuse of trust. To do so makes you everything a Dwarf should not be. An un-Dwarf, basically. Exile would be the kindest thing to happen to you.

(sorta-kinda-maybe related: the Petty-Dwarves, a smaller variant of Dwarven people, were said to use their secret names openly (Silmarillion). The Petty-Dwarves were suggested to be normal Dwarves who were exiled from Dwarf society, possibly for some nameless crime. We don’t know. They all died out in the First Age. We do know that the Elves hunted the Petty-Dwarves for sport until they finally realised that they were sentient, though jeez seriously Elves ‘wisest beings’ yeah right wtf)

In Sansukh’s universe, it’s very common for a parent or parents to be the first one/s to hear their child’s Dark-Name. It’s about trust and openness and vulnerability. Their child feels safe and loved. And so, in a moment of sheer tender magic, the child tells their parents what is written into their bones, what words surge in their blood. It’s a moment that new parents long for and dream about: the highest and most sacred loving honour they can receive.

However, that’s not true of all Dwarves. There are (thankfully very rare) crappy Dwarven parents whose children cannot ever feel that perfect safety and trust needed. They would never want to give their parent such a huge part of them. These Dwarves would keep their Kherumel to themselves. 

I also think that some of the higher beings can see what is written into each Dwarf with such love in Mahal’s handwriting. So: Gandalf, Sauron, Saruman. Gandalf has better manners than to blurt it out, though. Saruman would probably use it to manipulate.

Sauron uses it to attack. It is obscene that he attacks each Dwarf (through the Ring) using that special, sacred name, the very heart of them. That is the most disgusting and profane and horrible thing he could possibly do. 

About the half-elven, I think it was just the descendants of Earendil that got to choose between the elven or Mannish lives? The Valar gave him the option of a choice so he could stay in Valinor with his wife and then they extended that choice to their kids, grandkids, and so on. I don’t remember a mention of any other half-elf descendants getting to choose. I don’t have my Silmarillion on hand to check, but that’s what I remember. I may be mistaken. :D

AHHHH, cool! I can’t remember right at this moment, but that’s ringing a bell (faintly!) somewhere in my head… yeah, so – anon from previous ask! Some info for you! 

(also, this means I have even less of a clue as to where a half-elf, half-dwarf would go after death…!)

Never Again

fae-of-the-rose:

Small ficlet inspired by determamfidd ‘s Narvi and Celebrimbor headcanon posts and therefore also inspired by “Sansukh”. You don’t need to read the fic to understand this, just know that Narvi is female here.

Warning: mentions of torture. Nothing too descriptive, but it is mentioned.

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Oh.

Oh that hurts so good.

Thank you so much, Fae, it is beautiful and thoroughly devastating. I love it!

Hi, I love Sansûkh and it’s gotten me thinking about, well, mixed-race children. I think in the area of Elves we might have an answer, if the child chooses mortality they got to their mortal side’s fate. So what about half-Dwarf children? What do you think?

Oh boy, this is a puzzler.

So, I am not sure, is the short answer. But I like that theory! Ah, Eru bless the Peredhil, they solve so many problems! 🙂

So, yeah – I am totally guessing here, but I think they’d probably be able to choose the same way Elrond and Elros and Arwen and the twins did/do. I suppose that if a half-elven, half-dwarven child were raised by Elves, they would be more likely to adopt an Elven mindset and identify with their Elven heritage more closely than with their Dwarven side. And therefore they’d choose the Elven allotted span/place in the Halls of Mandos (and possible? re-embodiment) over a place in the Dwarven Afterlife, and vice versa.

*shrugs helplessly* IDK!

heeey, I don’t know about about the silm because I haven’t gotten the chance to read it just yet, but in shadow of mordor celebrimbor has a wife and kid. I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade or anything, so sorry if it seems that way, but do you know if celebrimbor actually had a family of if it was just something he game made up? thanks!

Hey! I’m guessing that’s a Shadow of Mordor thing alone? 

Tolkien Gateway tends to be fairly accurate, mostly. And it shows its sources for information, which is awesome. There’s no mention of a wife or child there (though it makes mention of the attraction he felt for Galadriel, from Unfinished Tales), and I’ve never come across it in my own reading. I could be wrong though!

Dets! What part of Middle-Earth are the Broadbeam’s from? (I may or may not be attempting to make a Broadbeam dumpling stew recipe. Shhhh…)

OOOOOOH. Tell me how it turns out! And if you want to, you can absolutely send me a recipe! Sansukh Cookbook ahahahaha

OKAY. I’m paraphrasing from memory here, please tell me if I am remembering any of this wrong!

So. Broadbeams were one of the three Western clans of Dwarves. Durin of the Longbeards woke at Mt Gundabad and wandered in the Misty Mountains before he proceeded to build Khazad-dum.

(I’ve always felt that this makes the colonisation of Mt Gundabad by Orcs particularly awful for the Dwarves, aside from the military implications – Mt Gundabad would be a very sacred place. Durin slept there for long ages, and first woke there. OUCH. Jeez. Dwarves can’t catch a break.)

The other two Fathers of the Dwarves (Broadbeams and Firebeards) woke in the Blue Mountains, or Ered Luin. They built their cities there. The Broadbeams built Belegost, and the Firebeards built Nogrod.

Both were lost after the War of Wrath, in which half the Blue Mountains were tipped into the sea. Most of the surviving Dwarves fled to Khazad-dum and mixed with the populace there.

(In Sansukh, I am using the ruins of Belegost as the setting for the Longbeard refugees of Erebor).

For interest, the other four clans (Stiffbeard, Blacklock, Ironfist, Stonefoot) woke in the Orocarni (Red Mountains), to the East 😉

bofurs-wife:

ALRIGHT KIDDOS

Narvi took some time out of her busy schedule to pose for me, so uh… here you go.

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GOOD GODDAMN

she is AMAZING ohhhhhhh my GOSSSSH

hair, skin, arms, anvil, body hair, bearrrrrrd, THIGHS YES THICK MUSCLY THIGHS YESSSSS, hoo boy that Dorf booty, saucy eyebrows and mona lisa smile *fans self* khelebrimbur’s gonna score tonight ooooh hot damn, that is a fiiiiiine Dwarrowdam pinup!!! BEAUTIFUL (AND ALSO HOT)