I always see this as shire retirement au where Gandalf is proposing Thorin joins him on another quest like an orc raid or smth and Bilbo instantly goes into protective mode “N-No no no NO if you think for one second that I’m letting him out of my sight ever again you are sadly mistaken!”
I don’t even think he’d be as polite as that tbh probably more like “If you take him away from me I will shove sting up your ass.”
during a stream, people prompted me to draw @hildyj‘s Oak and Mistletoe (To See,) and as always, it’s super hard to choose a scene because everything hildy writes is gorgeous and makes my belly flutter, but here’s some doodly kissing 😉
OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY HAVE A POSSIBLE ANSWER TO THIS
Groin seems to be a variant of a traditional Line of Durin name!!! Check out the family tree:
There’s been a King Oin and a King Gloin in the past. These names are tremendously repetitive and derivative, until you reach Borin. Then you have a bit of a departure in that branch of the family, and Fundin’s name seems to be derived in part from Farin’s.
Balin and Dwalin’s names also seem to be derived in part from Farin and Fundin.
But Groin’s seems to hark back to those old kings? Enough so that he is able to name his own sons after them, and they appear to be derivatives of his name, anyway.
So, there’s ONE possibility!
btw, this is totally disregarding Tolkien’s original source for many of these names, the Völuspá(the names Thorin, Thror, Thrain, Dain, Frar, Loni, Nar, Nain, Gloin, Dwalin, Balin, Bombur, Bifur, Bofur, Gandalf, Dori, Ori and Durin all came from this edda!)
I’m wondering tho: Some people have told me that the proper pronunciation of the -oin names sound more like O-win in the traditional writings, so if you take that into account, Fundin and Gro-win don’t sound as dissimilar.
Oh heck, yes – I forgot pronunciation! Totally agree!
OH MY GOD I ACTUALLY HAVE A POSSIBLE ANSWER TO THIS
Groin seems to be a variant of a traditional Line of Durin name!!! Check out the family tree:
There’s been a King Oin and a King Gloin in the past. These names are tremendously repetitive and derivative, until you reach Borin. Then you have a bit of a departure in that branch of the family, and Fundin’s name seems to be derived in part from Farin’s.
Balin and Dwalin’s names also seem to be derived in part from Farin and Fundin.
But Groin’s seems to hark back to those old kings? Enough so that he is able to name his own sons after them, and they appear to be derivatives of his name, anyway.
So, there’s ONE possibility!
btw, this is totally disregarding Tolkien’s original source for many of these names, the Völuspá(the names Thorin, Thror, Thrain, Dain, Frar, Loni, Nar, Nain, Gloin, Dwalin, Balin, Bombur, Bifur, Bofur, Gandalf, Dori, Ori and Durin all came from this edda!)