Tag: thorin oakenshield

lovelylilpup:

i love the headcanon that thorin is great with kids whereas bilbo isnt. bilbo doesnt like children that much and he’d rather interact with teens, nobody younger. thorin is just a natural Parent, he helped raises his nephews, and i like to think dwarf culture is very family oriented, and thorin always lent a helping hand especially to dwarves with children

and hes definitely a whiz with the fauntlings and frodo. which is a relief to bilbo

kooriicolada:

I started out doing a doodle of Thorin for @determamfidd because I am spiteful, and when people hate something I often what to produce more content of it, but as I was trying to decide what to do with the rest of him, my dear Sama sent me this link so I wound up with Thorin unhappily glowering at my Elf Knowledge.

ANYWAY, the point I want to make is Thorin might be a Giant Trash Bag, but he’s Our Giant Trash Bag.

Also, as another person who suffers chronic depression and fights it day in and day out, and who cannot stand to read really sad characters who’s sad slogs on and on and slog–Sansukh never did that for me.  It was always moving.  Thorin was always growing and improving and fighting even when he didn’t seem to be.

Maybe Dets doesn’t capture the way depression feels for everyone, but that’s always going to be the case.  Depression isn’t the same for each and every one of us.  Just as there is no two people who are exactly the same, we don’t suffer mental illness the same.

Point is; as always, thank you for the fic Dets and I hope this gets a laugh outta you. 😉

P.S. still dunno what to do with the rest of his pose so I guess he’ll just be cranky and glarey. 

I AM CACKLING OH M Y GOD KOORII

that is the fucking best lmao, look at his dear disgruntled face, growling at the words ‘tolkien elf’ bwahahahahahaha ilu, you taciturn Dwarf with the gigantic soul ❤

I imagine that he’s flipping the bird, at Elves and haters both!

Gosh, never thought of it that way. I never set out to make Thorin an everyman (everydwarf?) for people with depression. Just me. One of my coping mechanisms is to deal with shit by writing it out of me. So, Sansukh is very like how my depression manifests. It is important to me to write this story.  Some people with depression will have a bit more in common with this depiction, some a little less I guess.

Thank you SO much Koorii, you goddamn awesome person. I’m still smiling :)))

I just had a kind of sad thought about Dain. Imagine how much guilt he felt when Thorin, Fili, and Kili died. He did everything he could, it wasn’t reasonable for him to send anyone on Thorin’s quest and he came to help at Erebor as soon as he could, but still. His family is dead again, and he was powerless to stop it. And guilt isn’t always rational, so perhaps he blames himself, like Gimli did, for not going along on the quest even if he couldn’t send any of his people.

Heya Nonnie. Read ‘Yours Faithfully.’ I totally went through all of this, and yeah. 

Dain loves his family. But in all the talk of how important Thorin, Fili and Kili are to him, I feel that the guilt would be compounded by something far, far heavier. 

The lives he is charged with protecting. 

If we take the movie stuff as the way things went, then Dain originally said no to the Quest. (in the books? Dain doesn’t even know about the Quest until a raven turns up, ordering him to march to Erebor. Because it was a secret mission. SECRET MISSION.)

I don’t think he would feel guilty about not going on the Quest, tbh. If it hasn’t escaped everybody’s notice, only 13 Dwarves and a Hobbit went on the Quest. 

I don’t see it acknowledged much, but everyone, including every. single. Dwarf. in the Blue Mountains, where Thorin LIVED, said no. 13 Dwarves ONLY. Everyone fucking said no. EVERYONE SAID NO. Everyone. Every. One. It was lunacy. It was generally agreed to be lunacy. Thrain disappeared on this Quest. It was known to be hopeless. Dain is not the only one who said, ‘what the actual fuck, GUYS NO.’

Dain’s people have already been butchered once answering the call of the Elder Line of Durin. (Azanulbizar, the angst that keeps on angsting). The reason Dain’s folk are in the Iron Hills in the first place? THE DRAGON OF THE GREY MOUNTAINS. Yeaaaaah. He tries to protect them, bc he is a good Lord. It’s his duty to care for them. First and foremost, that is the role of a leader. 

y’know, I’ve never seen much sympathy for the folk of the Iron Hills. Expected to die, nothing but faceless cannon fodder in most stories (if they haven’t been villainised and warped beyond reason ofc) – their lives and stories seem to be worth nothing. They’re nothing. Nobody cares for them. Their lives are nothing. Their sacrifices are nothing, and nobody seems to notice that they turn up, fight, die. Turn up. Fight. Die. Die. Die. For homes that aren’t theirs. 

Dain loves his family. 

Dain is also a good Lord. He loves his people. Their lives matter to him. Their sacrifices matter to him. He will not order them to their certain death… not again. Not again. 

For gems and gold and mighty halls, the great will bid us roam,
And each time we obey their call we pray that we’ll come home.

Soon the drums will sound again, and out we’ll walk like cattle,
The Lordly need that iron blood for watering their battle.

But then Thorin orders him. And he goes, of course he goes. Dain’s family is important as well, so off he goes, out they march. To fight. To die. Nobody from the Blue Mountains does a damn thing except benefit, but Dain sends his folk out to fight. To die. For Thorin, for his cousin and King. To win Thorin’s home and crown back for him.

Again.

And it doesn’t even work.

How heavy are those deaths? His people, their lives, loyal soldiers who go out to die, over and over again? His people, those who share his home and his life, those under his protection and in his care? His duty?

(Stay aliiive…
Stay aliiive…)

[THORIN]
Where’s my brother?!

[BALIN]
Thorin, come in. They just brought him a half hour ago….

[THORIN]
Is he alive?!

[BALIN]
Yes, but the blade caught him just above his ribs…

[THORIN]
Can I see him, please?!

[BALIN]
Thorin, they did what they could..but the wound was already infected…

[THORIN]
Frerin!

[FRERIN]
Th-Thorin…
I did exactly what you told me.
I fought and held the line…

[THORIN]
Shh, I know, I know
Shh, I know, I know…

[FRERIN]
I…

[THORIN]
Shh, I know, you did everything just right.

[FRERIN]
Even before we took the Delf…

[THORIN]
Shh…

[FRERIN]
I raised my sword up high…
I….

[THORIN]
Shh, I know, I know.
Shh, I know, I know.
Shh, save your strength and stay ali-

[DIS]
-iiive!

[THORIN]
Namadith!

[DIS]
Is he breathing? Is he going to survive this?!
Who did this?
Thorin, why did you let him go?!

[FRERIN]
Dis, I’m so sorry for forgetting what you told me..

[DIS]
Nadadel…

[FRERIN]
We played the lute.

[DIS]
Amad taught us the lute…

[FRERIN]
You’d put your hand on mine.

[DIS]
You changed the melody every time.

[FRERIN]
I would always change the line…

[DIS]
Shh, I know, I know
Shh, I know I know…

[FRERIN]
I would always change the l-line…

[DIS]
Shh, I know, I know.
One, two, three, four –

[FRERIN]
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine..

[DIS]
Good. One, two, three, four-

[FRERIN]
One, two, three, f-

[DIS]
-Seven, eight, nine…
…Seven, eight, nine….
….Seven, eight….