At your service! Glad to be of help 😉
Not an odd question at all, Nonnie! I’m very flattered and glad that you’re interested 🙂
Okay, well, some of the songs and poems I have used are Tolkien’s words. Here are the ones I have used (or referred to) that are from canon:
Lay of Nimrodel
The Man in the Moon Stayed Up Too Late
Bilbo’s Bath Song
The Song of Durin (Gimli’s chant in Khazad-Dum)
The Lay of Luthien and Beren
The Riddle of Strider
I also used ‘I Sit Beside The Fire And Think’, but made up my own two final stanzas.
I also wrote a whole slew of new ones. The songs I created (GULP) are
Now and Forever I’ll Be Marching Home (the song sung as the Dwarves leave Ered Luin)
Bijebruk! (Gimli’s mining ditty, also doubles as a drinking song)
The Dwarven Mourning chant (rather like a plainsong, very hymnal)
The Song of Beginnings
The Iron Hills For Me
No, I don’t actually listen to music as I write. I tend to want to concentrate on the music, instead of writing! I find it really distracting. My head is a noisy enough place already 🙂
Some absolutely glorious people ( notanightlight , muchymozzarella, flamesburnonthemountainside) have composed and recorded songs from Sansukh. They are completely gobsmackingly beautiful. Check it out on the utterly bogglingly huge Sansukh Masterpost.
(It also has the link for my own version of the Iron Hills For Me, oh gawdelpme hahaha)
OOOOOOH. Tell me how it turns out! And if you want to, you can absolutely send me a recipe!
Sansukh Cookbook ahahahahaOKAY. I’m paraphrasing here, please tell me if I am remembering any of this wrong!
So. Broadbeams were one of the three Western clans of Dwarves. Durin of the Longbeards woke at Mt Gundabad and wandered in the Misty Mountains before he proceeded to build Khazad-dum.
(I’ve always felt that this makes the colonisation of Mt Gundabad by Orcs particularly awful for the Dwarves, aside from the military implications – Mt Gundabad would be a very sacred place. Durin slept there for long ages, and first woke there. OUCH. Jeez. Dwarves can’t catch a break.)
The other two Fathers of the Dwarves (Broadbeams and Firebeards) woke in the Blue Mountains, or Ered Luin. They built their cities there. The Broadbeams built Belegost, and the Firebeards built Nogrod.
Both were lost after the War of Wrath, in which half the Blue Mountains were tipped into the sea. Most of the surviving Dwarves fled to Khazad-dum and mixed with the populace there.
(In Sansukh, I am using the ruins of Belegost as the setting for the Longbeard refugees of Erebor).
For interest, the other four clans (Stiffbeard, Blacklock, Ironfist, Stonefoot) woke in the Orocarni (Red Mountains), to the East 😉
Only thing here that’s technically incorrect is that all we know canonically is that the Broadbeams and Firebeards built Nogrod and Belegost. We don’t know if each city belonged to one race or if they built/inhabited both together. The Nogrod-Firebeards and Belegost-Broadbeams division is technically fanon, though very reasonable fanon that I tend to also use.
That’s super ridiculously nitpicky but you asked XD Good answer otherwise (and man I hope somebody makes that recipe >.>)
Ah, thanks avi! ❤
SOUP. MMMM.
OOOOOOH. Tell me how it turns out! And if you want to, you can absolutely send me a recipe! Sansukh Cookbook ahahahaha
OKAY. I’m paraphrasing from memory here, please tell me if I am remembering any of this wrong!
So. Broadbeams were one of the three Western clans of Dwarves. Durin of the Longbeards woke at Mt Gundabad and wandered in the Misty Mountains before he proceeded to build Khazad-dum.
(I’ve always felt that this makes the colonisation of Mt Gundabad by Orcs particularly awful for the Dwarves, aside from the military implications – Mt Gundabad would be a very sacred place. Durin slept there for long ages, and first woke there. OUCH. Jeez. Dwarves can’t catch a break.)
The other two Fathers of the Dwarves (Broadbeams and Firebeards) woke in the Blue Mountains, or Ered Luin. They built their cities there. The Broadbeams built Belegost, and the Firebeards built Nogrod.
Both were lost after the War of Wrath, in which half the Blue Mountains were tipped into the sea. Most of the surviving Dwarves fled to Khazad-dum and mixed with the populace there.
(In Sansukh, I am using the ruins of Belegost as the setting for the Longbeard refugees of Erebor).
For interest, the other four clans (Stiffbeard, Blacklock, Ironfist, Stonefoot) woke in the Orocarni (Red Mountains), to the East 😉
I very much doubt I can do that, Nonnie. I’m sorry.
However, if you wanted to print it all out (and I feel sorry for that printer), I am totally fine with that, so long as it is for your own use and not for sale. 🙂
Uhhh, I honestly don’t have an opinion on which book to read in what order. I read The Hobbit first simply because it was being read in my class at school, and then I devoured the rest. I can’t even remember which order it was in.
Tolkien’s style isn’t what we’re used to these days, and it can sometimes be very dense and impenetrable. But you can do it! The payoff is unbelievable.
Silmarillion is a very different kettle of fish to the trilogy. It is even more impenetrable in certain places, being an interconnected early history of Middle-Earth, posthumously pieced together after JRR’s death. Thankfully, some people out there have been AMAZING and put together reading guides!
Tips for reading the Silmarillion by teamedain
The Silmarillion Reader’s Guide (available as ibook or pdf)
Have fun, and good luck!
Thanks for the mention, but I think I should mention we didn’t actual write that post – it’s one of askmiddlearth’s.
To your anon: I wouldn’t worry about not understanding The Silmarillion because you’ve not read LotR. They’re set in completely different time periods, with completely different geography, and (almost) entirely new characters. (Galadriel and Elrond appear in both, but having seen the films, you’d already be familiar with them.)
But determamfidd’s quite right to say The Silmarillion is more impenetrable – it’s certainly shorter than LotR, but much, much denser. There are literally hundreds of characters, places, and names to keep track of, although the guides linked above really are a great help when it comes to understanding what’s going on.
On the other hand, The Children of Húrin does function as a self-contained story, with far fewer characters and happening over a much shorter period of time. It’s not what I’d call a fun read (Túrin and I have never really got on) but I think it’d do quite well as an introduction to the First Age.
Ahhh, thank you so much for the clarification and for the information!
Ahaaaaaa, fabulous, thank you so much! (And yes, I love the audiobook version of LOTR: it is simply superb).
i didn’t get another message, so if there was a second part, I’m afraid it didn’t get through *shakes fist at tumblr*
Uhhh, I honestly don’t have an opinion on which book to read in what order. I read The Hobbit first simply because it was being read in my class at school, and then I devoured the rest. I can’t even remember which order it was in.
Tolkien’s style isn’t what we’re used to these days, and it can sometimes be very dense and impenetrable. But you can do it! The payoff is unbelievable.
Silmarillion is a very different kettle of fish to the trilogy. It is even more impenetrable in certain places, being an interconnected early history of Middle-Earth, posthumously pieced together after JRR’s death. Thankfully, some people out there have been AMAZING and put together reading guides!
Tips for reading the Silmarillion by teamedain
The Silmarillion Reader’s Guide (available as ibook or pdf)
Have fun, and good luck!
Aw Yiss 