I have the feeling that Hrera made her husband late for a bunch of early-morning meetings in the early days of their marriage? And when someone dares crack a dirty joke (looking at you, Nar), Thror just puts his head in his hands and groans. He wishes. Hrera is just not satisfied with his morning hairdo. He must look impeccable. And majestic.

LOL, absolutely! 

But Thror loves it. He really does. It’s one of the few peaceful moments of his day.

(if you want your heart broken more about Hrera & Thror and his braids, you should totally read The Secret to Good Braids by renioferebor!)

I’ve had a question about Durin for a long time. When he’s in the Halls, which incarnation does he look like? Does he look the same each lifetime, when he dies does he just look like he did in that lifetime, is his presence in the halls more of his soul that doesn’t look like any of his bodies?

It’s a mystery.

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Seriously, Nonnie, I have no idea, that’s something I haven’t thought of! Hmm, let’s sayyyyyy…

Durin (as with all the Seven Fathers Progenitors of the Dwarves) can be recognised through a very particular physical trait. Hint: It’s in his eyes.

Otherwise, he appears just as a normal Dwarf. Very ordinary, in fact. So ordinary that many overlook him in the crowd. He might be laughing at a play, or singing in one of the drinking-halls, or eating in one of the massive communal dining chambers. He’s spotted sometimes by one or two Dwarves – but he always disappears. 

He doesn’t always look the same. Sometimes he is an old whitebeard, with a stooped back and wrinkled brow. Sometimes he is young, with bright eyes and a ready grin and an air of adventure hanging around him. Sometimes he is a powerful Dwarf with a huge barrel chest – sometimes a small and weedy thing. Sometimes that beard is dyed green 😉

I just rattled that off, but I hope it satisfies, Nonnie!

AAHHHH!!!!! I will never be able to thank you enough for the snippet!!!!! This has made my week so so much better. YOU ARE A GODDESS AND I DON’T KNOW HOW TO THANK YOU. I AM UNWORTHY OF SUCH GIFTS. “For a brief moment the two lads live again: the leader of their pranks and his lieutenant. It is good to see, Thráin thinks.” I’M CRYING THIS IS PERFECT. I adore how you characterize the two of them!! It’s perfect, ergo you’re perfect :)

Awwwww, you are WAY too kind! I am a very long way from perfect. But I am thrilled you enjoyed it!! *hugs*

boinkaboink marathon anon again: thandruil shows up at gondor like “BRING ME TO MY SON, PEASANTS” and Aragon’s like “uh you really don’t want me to do that. he’s kinda busy.” and Thandy’s like “what could he possibly be doing that is more important than seeing his father????” and Aragon kinda shifts awkwardly and goes “… getting married?” AND THE ELVES ALL FLIP THEIR SHIT

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH AWESOME THAT IS HILARIOUS PFFFT

I have been a fan of Sansukh for a while, and I just have a question regarding Durin himself. I know that Durin is going to be reborn, and I was wondering (for scientific purposes) if Durin was still hanging around in Mahal’s halls when Ori died, because I’m sure he would love meet him (for scientific purposes). -love, your dedicated fans

Ooooh, yes he was! It’s only very recently that Durin was sent back out into the world… or will be. 

So Ori absolutely met him. And he would have fanboyed SO HARD, oh my gosh. And then he would likely have peppered Durin with a million questions, hee!

Thank you so much, Nonnie! I am so glad you’re enjoying it, thank you for reading!

I was having some major feels, so I went through and read all the Thorin and Frerin parts, and I have a MIGHTY NEED for their relationship to be explored more. Your appendices story was lovely, I may or may not have teared up at one point. As always, thank you for the beautiful writing Dets :)

Oh, I am SO GLAD you like them. I have such massive Thorin & Frerin feelings, they’re a bit uncontrollable at times!

Here’s a little character-study snippet for you, Nonnie. I hope you enjoy it!


Frerin is yawning into his bowl of Hrera’s soup. Beside him, Thorin is slack-faced and slouching. Both of them spoon their food into their mouths mechanically, their identical blue eyes bleary and half-lidded.

“Don’t eat and yawn at the same time, nadad,” Thorin mumbles. Frerin makes an indistinct noise of agreement, and almost nods into his bowl.

They’re both utterly exhausted. Still, it is good to see, Thráin thinks.

Even though he is himself nearly asleep, Thorin reaches out and tucks a stray braid behind Frerin’s ear before it dips into his meal. It is a gesture vaguely reminiscent of the way he treats his nephews, but not quite.

When Thorin cares for Fíli and Kíli, he looks upon them and touches them with a near-paternal love and pride. There is tenderness there, and devotion, and the remnants of Thorin’s terrible guilt. It is a love that watches with a father’s careful eye. Thráin knows that love, knows it well. He also knows how it feels to let go, to stand aside, and watch your beloved children make their own way.  

When Thorin watches Gimli, he stands tall with his chin held high. When he admires Gimli’s proficiency with words or weapons, his chest rises and he half-smiles without even realising it. His love for Gimli is one of loyalty and trust, of fellow-feeling and

camaraderie. He sees his best self in Glóin’s son, Thráin suspects. And it is heartening to see Thorin find the greatness in himself through the greatness in another.

But Thorin will reach out and touch Frerin’s lucky hair without a second thought. Thorin will clasp Frerin’s shoulder as though it is simply an extension of his own hand.

Frerin leans his chin upon his hand and absently lifts his spoon. It bumps his cheek twice before he finds his mouth. “Nadad,” Thorin chides. “Take a sip of cold water; it will wake you.”

“S’good though,” Frerin says, but he picks up his cup and does as he is bid. Thráin covers his smile.

Frerin has always turned to his brother. Like the sun, Frerin shines brightest when he has someone to warm.

“You have soup on your chin,” Thorin says, and thumbs it away from Frerin’s short beard. Frerin grins at him.

“So do you.”

Thorin’s rare smile flashes over his face. “Well, we are a pair, aren’t we?”

A matching set, the court had called them. Though Thorin was tall and dark and Frerin was slight and golden, they had been inseparable since the day Frerin was born. Thráin can still remember a small Thorin dragging his baby brother around underneath the armpits, Frerin’s stockinged feet dangling in the air.

“Hold still,” Frerin says, and he pats at Thorin’s face with his small hands. Thorin holds still, letting immature fingers card through his beard.

Frerin sits back. “Got it. Shame I can’t do anything about the rest of your face, though.”

Thorin huffs, and his free hand reaches out once more and scruffs the bright mess on Frerin’s head. Frerin squawks, but his tired eyes dance for a moment.

“Finish your soup, and go to bed,” Thráin tells them, and two heads bob in acknowledgement just as in long-gone days.

But Thorin is older than Thráin now, careworn and world-weary, and Frerin is still teetering between childhood and adulthood forever. They are not who they were. Frerin taught himself not to matter, to disappear. Thorin taught himself to stand alone and not to reach for a small shoulder.

Yet still Frerin follows, and Thorin leads.

Frerin yawns again, and leans against Thorin’s side. His spoon misses his mouth once more.

“You are determined to wear it, aren’t you,” Thorin murmurs, and Frerin wrinkles his nose.

“Oh, you can talk. You’re the one who rubbed porridge in my hair.”

“Oh come now, I was eleven!”

Frerin laughs, and for a brief moment he shines. Thorin hesitates, and then his deep chuckle joins in. For a brief moment the two lads live again: the leader of their pranks and his lieutenant.

It is good to see, Thráin thinks.

Now I’m having a persistent mental image of Leglas and Arwen commiserating over the annoyances of moving gracefully with beard-burnt thighs. Damn those attractive quick-tongued husbands.

Arwen: “Well, it’s not such a problem for me, of course…”

Legolas: “What? I would have thought it… worse. You know. Because his beard is shorter. More… bristly.”

Arwen: “Ah, but! The hands of a King are the hands of a healer, remember?”

Legolas: “… I don’t think that’s what Ioreth had in mind when she said that.”