Tag: dwarves

so… what with Dwarven cultural standards and all, would (movie version at least) Thorin, Fili and Kili be… slightly homely? Sort of skinnier and less hairy etc?

I don’t honestly think so. I know it’s popular to think that they are the ugly ducklings, but I like to believe that Dwarves aren’t like that. They’re Dwarves – they’re strong and thickset and sturdy, they’re capable and excellent warriors. They have fab noses and round ears and clever blunt fingers. Fili’s moustache braids are delish. Kili is young, his beard is still filling in – and besides, he is the best shot for miles around, that’s p damn attractive. 

IDK, I want to believe that Dwarves see every other Dwarf as pretty damn special. Their bodies are not up for judgement by others: Mahal made them to be the best self they could possibly be, and he made them with love, and I would hope that that would be remembered. Dwarves like Bombur and Gloin and Dori are super-slammin bammin hotties, sure, but every Dwarf out there (be they as round-bellied and small as Ori, or as blocky and bullish as Dwalin) is considered prime beef. 

IDK. I just don’t like the idea of body image issues amongst Dwarves. They have enough to deal with in a world that considers ELVES the most beautiful of all peoples. Bleh. 

speaking of partying in mahal’s halls, i wonder if you have any thoughts to share about what happens to dwarrows from, say, rival clans or who have feuds when they get there? or maybe not even on such a big scale, but perhaps just dwarves who haven’t been each other’s biggest fans in life, or who for some reason or another don’t really want to spend time in each other’s company, ymris them etc? are there corners of the halls they can expand into or seclude themselves in? is everything communal?

balinisballin:

aviva0017:

determamfidd:

Ahhhh, no actually! I have answered this somewhere, but no – not everything is communal. The Halls expand, and expand, and expand. There are private kitchens, family kitchens, small living quarters and large ones. There are communal forges and singular ones, depending on the nature of the Dwarf in question.

Yes, there are Dwarves who bear grudges! But life in the Halls is not true life, unfortunately – everyone is held in this holding pattern, and change is TREMENDOUSLY hard to implement. Ori and Bifur have spent eighty years growing closer, and it is only now that they are moving towards a more intimate relationship. Frerin and Fili and lived side-by-side for equally as long, and only now is Fili beginning to understand his younger uncle and to take him under his wing. Thorin has spent all this time in self-recrimination and doubt and guilt, and he is finally moving past it. 

Those Dwarves with serious grudges against one another (oh hi there, Nori’s ‘business associates’) would be fighting that soporific, cold, timeless and endless feeling that pervades the Halls. They are beautiful, but they are not a place of life. 

Oh god the list of people in the Halls that Nori is actively avoiding has got to be long indeed XD

this makes me a bit sad, tho the thought of noris business associates~ is hilarious indeed

This is exactly why he is trying to needle, trick, flatter, bribe or inveigle Thrain (he of the impressive scowl and fearsome beard and super-high status) into his dealings 😀

speaking of partying in mahal’s halls, i wonder if you have any thoughts to share about what happens to dwarrows from, say, rival clans or who have feuds when they get there? or maybe not even on such a big scale, but perhaps just dwarves who haven’t been each other’s biggest fans in life, or who for some reason or another don’t really want to spend time in each other’s company, ymris them etc? are there corners of the halls they can expand into or seclude themselves in? is everything communal?

Ahhhh, no actually! I have answered this somewhere, but no – not everything is communal. The Halls expand, and expand, and expand. There are private kitchens, family kitchens, small living quarters and large ones. There are communal forges and singular ones, depending on the nature of the Dwarf in question.

Yes, there are Dwarves who bear grudges! But life in the Halls is not true life, unfortunately – everyone is held in this holding pattern, and change is TREMENDOUSLY hard to implement. Ori and Bifur have spent eighty years growing closer, and it is only now that they are moving towards a more intimate relationship. Frerin and Fili and lived side-by-side for equally as long, and only now is Fili beginning to understand his younger uncle and to take him under his wing. Thorin has spent all this time in self-recrimination and doubt and guilt, and he is finally moving past it. 

Those Dwarves with serious grudges against one another (oh hi there, Nori’s ‘business associates’) would be fighting that soporific, cold, timeless and endless feeling that pervades the Halls. They are beautiful, but they are not a place of life. 

Do you think Gimli had any body piercings?

Yeah, I love that bit of fanon! I think Gimli has piercings along with his tatts. Some cool and unusual ones, like subdermals on the back of his neck, barbells through nipples, and ear-rings. (also – other places hem hem) 

They’re not small or discreet, either: these are proof of extreme badassery, after all! Lotsa jewels for special occasions. 

I love the body-mod Dwarves thing. Like, a lot. 

Maybe Dwalin spends several years after BOTFA just -not dancing- because there are too many sad associations with Thorin, Fili, & Kili. But he does dance a bit with Orla – mostly quiet ones (by dwarf standards). And he’ll occasionally let his kids drag him into a faster one. Though couple’s/group dancing is a Big Thing for dwarves.

*falls over and wibbles a bit*

I bet Dwalin and Orla make people a bit apprehensive at first when they go out onto the square – and then they’re so gentle and quiet with each other, it’d be a bit off-putting, hee. 

(GIMIZH TRYING HIS DANGEST TO DO THE SPINNING KICKS AND FALLING OVER THO)

d’you think Thorin is a good dancer? I mean as a prince he might’ve been taught a bit before the dragon but I’d imagine he might not really dance much in the years afterwards. I kinda bet Frerin would like dancing, or at least the quick and cheerful hobbit kind of dancing (I kinda imagine him just having the time of his life with it and it makes my heart ache a bit)

OKAY so I have ideas about Dwarven dancing!

I think Dwarves would make dancing into a virtuoso display of incredible endurance, strength, showmanship and control. I don’t think Dwarven dancing is staid or courtly at all. 

I think Thorin would have been very very good at the slow, controlled type of dance, full of dragging kicks and slow stamping  – the ones that need thigh muscles of freakin granite. I think he would have made a point of competition with Dwalin to last longer than him (and the loser has to buy the drinks). 

I think Gloin would have been the best at the spinning dances. Firebeards do spinning REALLY well – bc axe-dancing! (reminder that in Sansukh Haban, Gloin and Oin’s mum, is a famous axe-dancer)

I think Frerin would have been gifted at the fast dances. Light and fast and speedy with lots of stamping and fast footwork, hells to the yeah! (Fili would also have been good at these, imo).

I would like to imagine that the Iron Hills specialise in spectacular jumps 🙂

DANCING. 

I’ve answered a similar thing before – but bc I LOVE these and they need to be seen by everyone who loves Dwarves, check out these Ukrainian dances. They are similar to how I envision Dwarven dancing. 

Seeeeeriously. Check these out (start the first one at about 2:00 mins in):

DEM THIGHS.

DEM BUNS.